ZEN3 Based AMD Epyc Milan Server Processors TDP up-to 280W

cucaulay malkin

2021-01-30 09:34

compared to server,intel is doing great in desktop. they're getting pummelled in server/datacenter.even nvidia jumped to amd based systems for dgx and it must've been a hard pill to swallow.

#5882790

H83

2021-01-30 15:07

cucaulay malkin:

compared to server,intel is doing great in desktop. they're getting pummelled in server/datacenter.even nvidia jumped to amd based systems for dgx and it must've been a hard pill to swallow.

Intel´s luck is that they are the only one with enough fab capacity to supply most of the demand, specially now...

#5882812

tunejunky

2021-01-30 16:35

H83:

Intel´s luck is that they are the only one with enough fab capacity to supply most of the demand, specially now...

and they fill the ecosystem with product

#5882815

tunejunky

2021-01-30 16:48

right as we "speak", AMD has standing orders from Google, AWS, M$, and most major players in "the cloud" services, Pharma, and Bio-Tech. Then there are the standing orders for the supercomputers using the Epyc Milan series and the major cable and internet providers in the USA, not to mention elsewhere like anywhere under the Paris Accords. and they're less expensive, not just more powerful. if anyone was still wondering about capacity at TSMC, please stop. they have more capacity at 7,5, and soon 3n than anyone else. other fabs have to output dies sequentially as they are the ones who have limited capacity. TSMC has (and is building more) enough fabs to output in parallel. and unlike other heavy industry industry changing the production line (for the same node) is easy by comparison. once you hear about a shortage of Apple products or Android phones then you can complain about capacity.

#5882833

Kaarme

2021-01-30 17:22

tunejunky:

if anyone was still wondering about capacity at TSMC, please stop. they have more capacity at 7,5, and soon 3n than anyone else. other fabs have to output dies sequentially as they are the ones who have limited capacity. TSMC has (and is building more) enough fabs to output in parallel. and unlike other heavy industry industry changing the production line (for the same node) is easy by comparison. once you hear about a shortage of Apple products or Android phones then you can complain about capacity.

I wish someone told where the bottlenecks are so that I could blame the correct culprit! "Things just aren't working right now" or "demand is unexpextedly high" are too weird excuses. It's not like the PC business was born yesterday.

#5882854

schmidtbag

2021-01-30 18:23

The Epyc 7002 series had pretty mind-blowing performance. AMD made some pretty significant gains going from Zen2 to Zen3, and some of these Epycs seem to be clocked higher than their predecessors. It's no surprise why so many big companies are going after these.

#5882859

BLEH!

2021-01-30 18:54

So intel get 8 cores for the same TDP that AMD get 64... Makes a whole lot of sense!

#5882895

IchimA

2021-01-30 20:22

@BLEH! 🙂)) GOD dammit that was funny

#5882920

tunejunky

2021-01-30 21:41

Kaarme:

I wish someone told where the bottlenecks are so that I could blame the correct culprit! "Things just aren't working right now" or "demand is unexpextedly high" are too weird excuses. It's not like the PC business was born yesterday.

it's actually very simple - the AIB's downgraded their output forecasts to deal with Covid and haven't yet adapted as fast as the suppliers. same thing with gddr once they realize that demand hasn't diminished they will modify output despite last years flat growth. this could be a success story depending on the speed of the supply chain. the odd thing is counterintuitive to economic models boredom creates a demand of it's own with increased focus on gaming or streaming.

#5882982

Gomez Addams

2021-01-31 07:45

We have to get another server soon and I have been advocating for an EPYC CPU and I think we may get one. I hope we can hold out long enough to get a third generation unit. They look pretty good - especially the big caches.

#5882984

kapu

2021-01-31 08:03

INTEL counterpart must look like last decade tech , prolly need like 20 cores to beat 10....

#5883081

BLEH!

2021-01-31 15:24

IchimA:

@BLEH! 🙂)) GOD dammit that was funny

BuT iNtEl GeT 2 mOaR FpS iN gAmEz!!! xD

#5883088

Undying

2021-01-31 15:57

BLEH!:

BuT iNtEl GeT 2 mOaR FpS iN gAmEz!!! xD

True story.

#5883150

anticupidon

2021-01-31 20:31

BLEH!:

BuT iNtEl GeT 2 mOaR FpS iN gAmEz!!! xD

/sarcastic joke AMD: Cool story bro! /end. I catch your drift. In the server room nobody cares about fps. IT management cares about buying the best bang for the buck I am talking about IT management with their unbiased opinion and without some company bribing and lobbying their platforms.

#5883172

LimitbreakOr

2021-01-31 22:05

That’s true, thanks to me almost everyone in my company of 50+ are rocking amd think pads and our server is rocking an epic zen2 cpu. Although the earlier laptops with Ryzen 2 aren’t better than the intel counterpart, it’s nice not having to worry about bios updates as they are risky to do remotely.

#5883186

BLEH!

2021-01-31 23:34

Undying:

True story.

At twice the cost/performance and twice (or more) the power/performance. Releasing a GPU that only works on their own platforms. Digging their grave.

#5883188

Undying

2021-01-31 23:37

BLEH!:

At twice the cost/performance and twice (or more) the power/performance. Releasing a GPU that only works on their own platforms. Digging their grave.

Well https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-i9-11900k-rocket-lake-s-cpu-debuts-on-passmark-with-the-fastest-single-core-performance-in-the-ranking

#5883192

BLEH!

2021-01-31 23:46

Undying:

Well https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-i9-11900k-rocket-lake-s-cpu-debuts-on-passmark-with-the-fastest-single-core-performance-in-the-ranking

In reference to all core perf, rather than single-threaded.

#5883566

Kaarme

2021-02-02 12:18

tunejunky:

it's actually very simple - the AIB's downgraded their output forecasts to deal with Covid and haven't yet adapted as fast as the suppliers. same thing with gddr once they realize that demand hasn't diminished they will modify output despite last years flat growth. this could be a success story depending on the speed of the supply chain. the odd thing is counterintuitive to economic models boredom creates a demand of it's own with increased focus on gaming or streaming.

Actually, TSMC doesn't have any capacity to spare. Even governments are now begging TSMC to do something about the automotive chip shortage. TSMC has promised to see what it can do, but doesn't particularly promise any results. So, no, you can't say there wouldn't be any problems on the actual CPU/GPU chip production side.

#5883568

Loobyluggs

2021-02-02 12:38

Kaarme:

Actually, TSMC doesn't have any capacity to spare. Even governments are now begging TSMC to do something about the automotive chip shortage. TSMC has promised to see what it can do, but doesn't particularly promise any results. So, no, you can't say there wouldn't be any problems on the actual CPU/GPU chip production side.

Texas Instruments is the stock I'm looking into right now for this reason. These guys are the ones who make little things that make the bigger things, like, logic circuits for aeroplanes and warning light indicators in cars. I think all these sorts of companies are about to do very well out of 'this'.