Agonist:

These Xbox names are retarded though.

Not at all, persevering against everyone, make this name as legendary as "playstation" The prototype of the 1st XBox sold nearly as high as the Nintendo Playstation (the 1st playstation's prototype) wich make them both sit at the same level.

Denial:

Seems like an impressive chip/console. Glad it's shipping with Mesh Shader support too - seems like it's a technology that can significantly improve realism with LODs but Turing is the only current arch that supports it until RDNA2.

Absolutely. With this being the new base level spec games will be designed around, ( and with both AMD and Nvidia now having the full VRS, RT, Mesh Shader set of features ), we'll be seeing some pretty sweet looking games in the future.

Very nice indeed, and considering what it costs for just a rtx card alone, if they can sell this for the £499 mark then it looks like i will be upgrading my XBX on day one for a X series.....love that cooling setup, very impressive looking.

It's and impressive console just like the Xbox one X, my issue being if it's like the xbox one(s/x) what is the point of it. There were so few exclusive games even if you just count the pc/xbox exclusives. Unless you really like Halo, which last generation a one Halo game, which wasn't that well recieved or Gears of war which 4 was meh, 5 was a lot better. It's hard to get behind this an be like yeah! At least for me, though I am sure the PC community due to nearly all the games coming out on PC don't have many reasons to look at this. But even taking away my PC, I can't see myself buying a console for maybe 1 halo game and 1 gears game maybe 2. When they don't seem to have these big exclusives coming out like Sony has the past decade or so now. My personal take anyway. Hardware is great, best in the console world. Wondering where the software is to truely back this up. That or more effort into the backwards games, with more enchanced, only 69 right now currently have this (which is great don't get me wrong but if they got no big first parties coming out why not have more effort on that front?)

Ricepudding:

It's and impressive console just like the Xbox one X, my issue being if it's like the xbox one(s/x) what is the point of it. There were so few exclusive games even if you just count the pc/xbox exclusives. Unless you really like Halo, which last generation a one Halo game, which wasn't that well recieved or Gears of war which 4 was meh, 5 was a lot better. It's hard to get behind this an be like yeah! At least for me, though I am sure the PC community due to nearly all the games coming out on PC don't have many reasons to look at this. But even taking away my PC, I can't see myself buying a console for maybe 1 halo game and 1 gears game maybe 2. When they don't seem to have these big exclusives coming out like Sony has the past decade or so now. My personal take anyway. Hardware is great, best in the console world. Wondering where the software is to truely back this up. That or more effort into the backwards games, with more enchanced, only 69 right now currently have this (which is great don't get me wrong but if they got no big first parties coming out why not have more effort on that front?)

My answer would be Xbox is being sold as a service, and the Series X is just a medium for access to the service. Microsoft will have all of their published games on the Xbox service(being on the Windows 10 kernel which the current One and the Series X will run) so this is giving people the option of buying the $500 or so solution that they do not have to do a lot to to get it running or maintain it. I assume installation will still be a thing, but what I'm trying to get at is it's another option for gamers. Pretty cool to see it like this as well.

Now they only need to disclose the price of the console.

vbetts:

My answer would be Xbox is being sold as a service, and the Series X is just a medium for access to the service. Microsoft will have all of their published games on the Xbox service(being on the Windows 10 kernel which the current One and the Series X will run) so this is giving people the option of buying the $500 or so solution that they do not have to do a lot to to get it running or maintain it. I assume installation will still be a thing, but what I'm trying to get at is it's another option for gamers. Pretty cool to see it like this as well.

I think you might be right, they seem to being going for this live service idea with PC/Cloud/ Xbox getting people onto the service. My issue still is the lack of first party software, the xbox one generation i wouldnt say failed, but the Switch has now outsold it and the ps4 outsold it by more than 2 to 1. I can only assume that this is partly due to software (Games) being rather lacking. I hope they learnt from this gen and released some amazing games like sony has. Which I think is a shame the xbox one x for what it was, was a super cheap and powerful system. Guess for those that play muti-platform games its no issue, but I love the single player exclusives that have been coming out as of late such as God of War, maybe my favourite game of all time (split between that and metal gear solid 3)

Agonist:

These Xbox names are retarded though.

I think someone forgot it's 2020.

Think I’m probably going to continue with what I did this gen after selling my Xbox One X, just have a PlayStation for the exclusives and a PC for everything else.

Hooray for having a 3700x/32gb/2070 Super, I won't have to upgrade my system to run games for many years now, since the console is using pretty much the same stuff (except AMD GPU). I would have bought a GPU from AMD also but my last one was awful as per drivers go. I couldn't do my production work any more on the system because of it and dual-screen support was a lagging mess when it even worked at all. Good riddance. I booked from the AMD GPU scene about a month before the [expletive] hit the fan about their drivers. Good thing they got on it some, though. Hopefully consoles won't have any AMD driver issues (I would hope not!). To that end I never had stability issues on my Ryzen x570 setup here outside of the Rx 480 8gb GPU drivers. Everything else has been golden, and not one hiccup since adding in the 2070 Super for too much money. Can't wait for some games that really leverage this 8-core (a select few do now, but it's not many and more the exception rather than the rule), to give us the interactive open worlds we want in future titles.

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Caesar:

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Never seen any that guy's videos before, but, wow...what an immediately distrustful individual... "These settings are not possible on a PC" ORLY? Well, you little dweeb, it was developed on a PC, so that kinda smacks you in the face, pushes you back onto a spike and skewers your torso in agonising pain and suffering, doesn't it. Also, and, this is a personal thing that I think only applies to me and no one else on the planet, but I cannot stand people who use the word 'super' as a superlative adjective. It actually makes me physically sick/nauseous. I really do not know why videos like this are made, because it is no more than someone reading the PR statements from Microsoft with a heavy bias to generate a narrative. Like, talking about the fan and the exhaust air, and that even if something is placed on top to block it, hot air will still be removed from the system, even though it is not ideal. The only people who would ever think to mention that are people who did extensive research and found that some people remarked that it was a dumb design because of air flow, so, they had to add that to this individuals media training prior to making the video. I understand and appreciate that people like this are making videos and have a following, but, he clearly is just shilling and I would never ever trust a word that came out of his mouth. At least Linus (who I do not like) bookends his videos with disclaimers. This guy is just a mouthpiece.

rdmetz:

There were many years where I only found exclusives that I wanted to play on Xbox and nothing of interest was exclusive to Playstation. Since the PS4 this has definitely changed but I don't doubt that with all their studio acquisitions Microsoft is poised to bring a whole slew of titles I will one day call must plays I just don't know them yet. Sony did it for me with God of War (I never cared about the originals) in and the last of us as well as uncharted 4 (again never cared about 1 2 or 3). These things happen game series get old and new ones pop up in their place. What I would worry about is where is the best place to play the games you care about most and for me that's pc with my $10,000 rig but for many its a console and I would want the mlsy powerful one I could get to play all the titles that come out everywhere vbut place best only in 1 place.

Odd Flex there I agree PC always nicer, and with xbox games on PC the likelihood of me buying this product is small to none, but was thinking outside of myself. And yeah a back on the OH xbox and 360 it had some great exclusives, will just have to see if they got loads to bring out this time around, Think sony has always had some great exclusives mind you, but even then loads are now out on PC... it's an odd time to be alive

I would say more like close to $599 for it, $799 will be a more fair price, considering the specs, but consoles were almost always sold at a loss....but we'll see.

They were supposedly working on a cheaper variant called Lockhart. I don't think we've heard much about that and what exactly is making it cheaper.

Ricepudding:

Odd Flex there I agree PC always nicer, and with xbox games on PC the likelihood of me buying this product is small to none, but was thinking outside of myself. And yeah a back on the OH xbox and 360 it had some great exclusives, will just have to see if they got loads to bring out this time around, Think sony has always had some great exclusives mind you, but even then loads are now out on PC... it's an odd time to be alive

MS have nailed this whole console/pc gaming integration perfectly, they make money from both, they sell games on both, and both console and pc gamers are happy, so i take my hat off to them but more importantly the consumer gains on everything. 😉

Loophole35:

It's an impressive unit but lets not kid ourselves, it's gonna be expensive. I'd venture to say $799. Microsoft has already said the X1X is gonna be available for those that don't want to pay for the XSX.

It'll be 499 or 599 USD only. people won't pay more for a console regardless of specs because the specs don't matter to the casual gamer which is what these are aim at. people want to be able to play on their 4k 120hz TV and have it look good.

Loobyluggs:

Never seen any that guy's videos before, but, wow...what an immediately distrustful individual...

I think Austin is an aspie, he just has the quirks.

XP-200:

Very nice indeed, and considering what it costs for just a rtx card alone, if they can sell this for the £499 mark then it looks like i will be upgrading my XBX on day one for a X series.....love that cooling setup, very impressive looking.

Unless MS are willing to lose a SHED LOAD of money on each unit I wouldn't hold your breathe for that kind of price point. I expect these machines (both Xbox and PS) will be the most expensive machines we have ever seen! Just look at the hardware inside them!? 8core/16thread 3.8GHz Ryzen based chip (basically a 3700X with locked clocks either 3.6GHz or 3.8GHz) Brand new RDNA2 architecture based GPU that looks on par with an RTX2080 Super! 16GB GDDR6 RAM with different setup for bandwidth Ray Tracing support with a discrete chip to offload the workload 3D Audio processing New wireless tech for controllers and TV's USB 3.2 support and probably the latest WiFi band support too 1TB NVME drive with upto 4.8GB/s using PCIE GEN4 Don't forget all the RnD costs and marketing costs too! AND You think this will ALL cost £500!??? If this cost £500 it would KILL/DESTROY the PC gaming market, prices on current gen cards would crash into the ground, CPU prices would crumble and game development would probably halt rather quickly. I don't care if you have MS's billions in the bank and you are buying these parts in bulk, there is no way this will cost £500. If it does I would be EXTREMELY surprised. I maybe wearing a tinfoil hat right now but I strongly think these machines will be around the £999 mark to buy out right. OR A subscription model much like a mobile phone (which also cost around £900-£1200 to buy out right). Say £60p/m for 3 years. 36 months 36x60= £2160 Include game pass with that and Xbox Live, and maybe a streaming service too like Netflix, or Amazon, or even include XCloud to get people onto the service.

Brasky:

It'll be 499 or 599 USD only. people won't pay more for a console regardless of specs because the specs don't matter to the casual gamer which is what these are aim at. people want to be able to play on their 4k 120hz TV and have it look good.

People don't care about specs? Tell that to the people who go out and buy the latest smartphones or the people who sign up day one to insane subscription models for them. People may not care now, but you can bet your bottom dollar that MS and Sony will MAKE people start to care. If casual people didn't care about specs then MS and Sony would do the same thing as Nintendo is doing and use old hardware so they can sell cheaper but still make tons of money. You will have: XBO X = For the casuals (around £200-£300) XBO Series S = For the cheap gamers (around £400-£500 or a sub model) XBO Series X = For "hardcore gamers" with cash (around £800-£1000 or a sub model) Both companies have said they will not take a loss on the hardware again like they did with the 360 and PS3. They also want these machines to last a long time, hence the insane specs on them. I could be a tinfoil hat person but I just can't see these machines being so cheap with this sort of hardware inside them.

£999!....not so much a tin foil hat as a whole tin foil 3 peice suit. Lol