Unity Adding NVIDIA DLSS Support to Their Game Engine

#5904907

kapu

2021-04-15 10:00

Good , bring more , that will pressure AMD, competition = progress.

#5904912

cucaulay malkin

2021-04-15 10:45

kapu:

Good , bring more , that will pressure AMD, competition = progress.

I think they've been pressured enough to show their own image reconstruction technology when dlss 2.0 came out more than a year ago. adding dlss to all major engines would be ensuring fantastic longevity for rtx 20/30 cards. when pascal owners have to start dropping resolution scaling,turing owners can use dlss intead.frankly this is amazing,I wish my 1070 had it.

#5904916

kapu

2021-04-15 11:06

cucaulay malkin:

I think they've been pressured enough to show their own image reconstruction technology when dlss 2.0 came out more than a year ago. adding dlss to all major engines would be ensuring fantastic longevity for rtx 20/30 cards. when pascal owners have to start dropping resolution scaling,turing owners can use dlss intead.frankly this is amazing,I wish my 1070 had it.

Imagine 1080 Ti had it . That would be nuts . Like that longest high performing card in the history 😀 DLSS 2.0 is not enugh pressure. Need wide support. Progress is progress anything is good.

#5904920

cucaulay malkin

2021-04-15 11:16

kapu:

DLSS 2.0 is not enugh pressure.

🙄 OF COURSE IT ISN'T I mean what kind of amd owner would like a feature like that

#5904934

geogan

2021-04-15 12:01

It's a pity the main AI neural net has to be trained using images of game that needs it. So doesn't work so well in untrained other games or applications. Or does it? Not sure. Sounds like it from what I read.

#5904944

cucaulay malkin

2021-04-15 12:40

geogan:

It's a pity the main AI neural net has to be trained using images of game that needs it. So doesn't work so well in untrained other games or applications. Or does it? Not sure. Sounds like it from what I read.

it looks like anything can be reconstructed with dlss 2.0 but to get satisfactory results you need training

#5904956

kapu

2021-04-15 13:27

cucaulay malkin:

🙄 OF COURSE IT ISN'T I mean what kind of amd owner would like a feature like that

I think any user would like that . For now i don't need it but in 2 years the card will age and that would help alot.

#5904957

Krizby

2021-04-15 13:31

Fox2232:

AMD's version which is supposedly going to work even for GCN cards will very likely work on 1080Ti too.

If something seems too good to be true, it probably is. At this point AMD still don't know which direction they are going with (DirectML or no DirectML?). My 2cents is if FSR can be used on all hardware then the image quality will turn out terrible (might be better than Upscaling + CAS but nowhere near DLSS). Also there are other Upscaling tech like Unreal Temporal Upsampling which works out pretty well but still lose to DLSS.

#5904958

H83

2021-04-15 13:32

This is the perfect example of how "small" AMD is compared to both Nvidia and Intel because they can afford to create software features alongside their hardware, something that´s much more difficult for AMD because they don´t possess the same financial resources.

#5904960

cucaulay malkin

2021-04-15 14:04

H83:

This is the perfect example of how "small" AMD is compared to both Nvidia and Intel because they can afford to create software features alongside their hardware, something that´s much more difficult for AMD because they don´t possess the same financial resources.

first of all, it takes a lot of planning in advance. dlss was just an afterthought,it started with putting tensor cores on volta,then using them on turing,then improving them on ampere to cut the number of tensor cores but still have the same performance available.2080ti has 588 tensor cores,3070 has 180-something. Mobile entry level cards like 3050 are gonna get it this generation already. It was a long term investment that will pay off.AMD too often has to whip something up fast,and there is no guarantee they won't have to search for other solutions for later generations.

#5905030

Noisiv

2021-04-15 17:50

ViperAnaf:

every time an AMD fb mentions Upscaling + CAS as an equivalent to DLSS im ROFL...

sure it's equivalent that's why they hit an all-time rock bottom: https://abload.de/img/add-in-board-gpu-mark9pj0v.png

#5905038

Kool64

2021-04-15 18:16

I almost bought a 5700XT last year but I decided to spring for the few $ more 2070s(could have did a 2070 I suppose) because of it's RT cores and I don't regret it.

#5905052

Denial

2021-04-15 18:38

Noisiv:

sure it's equivalent that's why they hit an all-time rock bottom:

Honestly the 6k series is a good product and I think it's marketshare would be better than 5k series, I just think given the shortage/demand situation AMD would rather spend it's capacity with TSMC on Ryzen dies, which nets them way larger profit margins than the GPUs.

#5905064

valentyn0

2021-04-15 19:26

After i bought 3080 last december and saw for myself what dlss 2.0 can do, i replaced it with 6800XT. Good riddance. Dlss is a gimmic ! I prefer RAW.

#5905126

theoneofgod

2021-04-16 00:06

valentyn0:

After i bought 3080 last december and saw for myself what dlss 2.0 can do, i replaced it with 6800XT. Good riddance. Dlss is a gimmic ! I prefer RAW.

Lol

#5905340

TimmyP

2021-04-16 18:35

geogan:

It's a pity the main AI neural net has to be trained using images of game that needs it. So doesn't work so well in untrained other games or applications. Or does it? Not sure. Sounds like it from what I read.

DLSS 2 does not use per-game training.

#5905458

cucaulay malkin

2021-04-17 08:26

valentyn0:

After i bought 3080 last december and saw for myself what dlss 2.0 can do, i replaced it with 6800XT. Good riddance. Dlss is a gimmic ! I prefer RAW.

After i bought 6900xt last december and saw for myself what CAS can do, i replaced it with 3090. Good riddance. CAS is a gimmic ! I prefer RAW.

#5905482

cucaulay malkin

2021-04-17 10:29

Fox2232:

Yeah, ... well, ... no? CAS runs on nVidia's HW too. You could have seen CAS in action no matter what make of GPU you have had as long as it was capable to start game which uses it. (Or inject one of CAS variants via reshade.)

Jesus Christ can't you see sarcasm from a mile ? you really have selective vision man

#5905488

Spets

2021-04-17 11:03

pharma:

Outriders' DLSS does a lot more than just improve performance | Rock Paper Shotgun April 15, 2021

It also adds in extra details missing at native resolution ... Admittedly, at a quick glance, it doesn't look like much has really changed with DLSS Quality enabled, and in motion you'd probably be hard-pushed to notice the difference as well. But if you like to take your time in Outriders once you've finished clearing its rooms of goons and trying on all the different kind of space trousers they've left behind, then it's definitely worth switching on, as I think it not only makes textures look sharper and more defined, but it also adds in extra details you just don't get when playing without it.

#5905498

cucaulay malkin

2021-04-17 11:39

Fox2232:

No, sorry. Only false equivalence where it was not appropriate. Anyway, even that text does not qualify to be dictionary expression of sarcasm. And stating that it is sarcastic expression is kind of confusing in terms of: "What sentiment did you want to express again?" But maybe 'sarcasm' has different meaning/use in your langue. Some things are relative, some are not. Same way as some people notice IQ degradation with DLSS, and some do not.

false equivalence ? like you keep replying to my sarcastic comment and turn a blind eye to the original one ? every time we exchange posts you conveniently ignore things you just don't wanna see.