TSMC details 5nm and 3nm process nodes, 3nm in late 2021

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Intel, please get rid of your in house chip maker and just contract these guys please.
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baasgene:

Intel, please get rid of your in house chip maker and just contract these guys please.
Impossible, Intel needs in wafer quantity is too big, even if Intel were the sole customer of TSMC, it would probably still not be enough... Edit: TSMC supply would be sufficient, but Intel would need more than a third of it -> not gonna happen.
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Also, what the node is named as is mostly becoming marketing terms these days. Transistor density would be a better representation of how much something shrinks.
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sbacchetta:

Impossible, Intel needs in wafer quantity is too big, even if Intel were the sole customer of TSMC, it would probably still not be enough... Edit: TSMC supply would be sufficient, but Intel would need more than a third of it -> not gonna happen.
Yeah Intel is about 1/3 fab capacity of course most of Intel's product's are logic which I assume Intel would be a huge percentage of the logic fabs at 7nm or below. https://sst.semiconductor-digest.com/2016/01/samsung-tsmc-remain-tops-in-available-wafer-fab-capacity/
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Are those event press only? can't seem to find any stream of it.
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Ssateneth:

Also, what the node is named as is mostly becoming marketing terms these days. Transistor density would be a better representation of how much something shrinks.
The density is becoming more and more conservative.. to the point where SRAM shrink is only 20%.
Compared to it’s N5 node, N3 promises to improve performance by 10-15% at the same power levels, or reduce power by 25-30% at the same transistor speeds. Furthermore, TSMC promises a logic area density improvement of 1.7x, meaning that we’ll see a 0.58x scaling factor between N5 and N3 logic. This aggressive shrink doesn’t directly translate to all structures, as SRAM density is disclosed at only getting a 20% improvement which would mean a 0.8x scaling factor, and analog structures scaling even worse at 1.1x the density. Modern chip designs are very SRAM-heavy with a rule-of-thumb ratio of 70/30 SRAM to logic ratio, so on a chip level the expected die shrink would only be ~26% or less.