Personally, i read it as the launch of the API. But i suppose you could take it the other way.

The APIs already been launched though (14.1s), its just not finished. That slide reads as Thief having Mantle support from its launch (the games), as BF4 had to be patched with it.

No game should have been advertised as supporting Mantle....if it had to be patched in after release.... I'm waiting for the next Dragon Age release. If this "release now, patch for Mantle later" fiasco is still taking place....I won't waste my money.

AMD have gone about it all wrong, but thats them, they can never deliver right, they'll get there in the end though, as always, ive no doubt. 🙂

Colour me disappoint. On the other hand it will probably be going for a tenner a month after release so I'll just wait.

No game should have been advertised as supporting Mantle....if it had to be patched in after release.... I'm waiting for the next Dragon Age release. If this "release now, patch for Mantle later" fiasco is still taking place....I won't waste my money.

Its all because AMD can't execute delivery, their Mantle drivers shoud have been done last year, BF4 should have had its Mantle patch on time in December, and Thief should have came out with Mantle support from launch, but its what AMD are known for, poor delivery, so its not unexpected really is it. We all know if Nvidia were doing Mantle, it would have all gone like that, the driver would have bene done last year, BF4 would have been patched on time, and Thief would have been coming out with Mantle on launch.

Imo its not because of mantle, but because they're kinda cheap & solid gpus (customs). And because they rival competitors top end gpus at a much higher price. lol I give mantle 20-30% credit 😀

I think the huge number of AMD cards that have been sold are due to mining not Mantle

Agreed, Minings the cause of their cards selling out everywhere, and their prices rocketing, not Mantle, as that was unveiled at that GPU 14 tech day way back in Sept (?) last year.

I dunno why you guys derailed, 290 /290x aren't mining cards.

They are, thats why in the states their prices have rocketed, and they are pretty much hard to get hold of. Overclockers only allowed a max of 2 per person (or something like that) when they got the 290s in to stop all the miners buying them up in their hundreds.

Wonder if not long after its release, someones managed to get Mantle working. :P

Its all because AMD can't execute delivery, their Mantle drivers shoud have been done last year, BF4 should have had its Mantle patch on time in December, and Thief should have came out with Mantle support from launch, but its what AMD are known for, poor delivery, so its not unexpected really is it. We all know if Nvidia were doing Mantle, it would have all gone like that, the driver would have bene done last year, BF4 would have been patched on time, and Thief would have been coming out with Mantle on launch.

Worst case, Mantle would have been delayed a couple days..... Even NVidia has hickups at times, but nothing like AMD with Mantle. That's one of the biggest reasons I always jump back to NVidia. AMD just sucks at execution and everything seems to get delayed by several weeks to months.....

I dunno why you guys derailed, 290 /290x aren't mining cards.

All those using the 290 and 290X for mining, would strongly disagree... They might not have been designed with mining as the primary purpose, but they are insanely good at mining.

I'm a little disappointed to be honest.

If i was going to upgrade my GPU it would have been a custom cooled AMD 290X this time, mostly due to Mantle and the lower price for the performance it delivers. which is in between the Titan and GTX 780 TI and in some cases depending on the game it even beats the GTX 780TI according to Hilberts review. On top of that also comes with 4gb of GDDR5 memory. The only thing that held me back are the very high temps of 94c (I already owned a GTX 480 and i know what it's like) even with a custom cooled card the core temps might be lower around 74c. I am sure that a lot of other places on the GPU get really hot which i believe won't be good in the long run. Now as for Mantle i believe it has a very good potential as an API but is still in it's early stages of development.As we know Games in general need at least 2 years of development, in some cases more. Mantles API actual release might have caught Battlefield 4 and Thief during halfway of the games development using the DX11 api and needed to be patched for support. Plus the actual drivers are still in an early stage,I hope by the time we get another mantle supported game it will be implemented during a games development from the beginning also by then the AMD drivers with mantle will have matured as well. Also let's not forget tressfx which is still in it's early stages and things can only get better like tresfx 2.0. To come to a conclusion these new techs MANTLE and TRESFX are still in their early stages and only time will tell if they will be a success or not,at least it's much better than Nvidias Physx. EDIT: Forgot to mention in the beginning of my post about upgrading to a 290x another reason is that i wanted to try out an ATI/AMD GPU as i have never owned one before and i wanted to switch sides for once.

I upgraded at the start of the year only because of Mantle and BF4... So far Mantle does not run correctly in BF4... and then BF4 is crashing all these months after it's launch. So when I read that this game was being Released with Mantle,which they said it was going to be, I was really excited, finally I can put my new video card to use, and then now this news of "coming later via an update".. I guess you can imagine my disappointment. I know in time it will come, but yeah.... nothing but disappointment so far.

Its a single player game...who is going to play again just with mantle...

Its a single player game...who is going to play again just with mantle...

I will, if is good; If I like a game I always play it 2 or 3 times.

I upgraded at the start of the year only because of Mantle and BF4... So far Mantle does not run correctly in BF4... and then BF4 is crashing all these months after it's launch. So when I read that this game was being Released with Mantle,which they said it was going to be, I was really excited, finally I can put my new video card to use, and then now this news of "coming later via an update".. I guess you can imagine my disappointment. I know in time it will come, but yeah.... nothing but disappointment so far.

I can understand your disappointment, I would have been too. I almost was going to upgrade to at least a 290 if not the flagship 290x mainly for Mantle (and the fact that all consoles have an AMD gpu). I thought it was about time to switch to AMD after all these years being strictly a Nvidia user.But i changed my mind mainly because my GTX770 can handle almost any game at max settings in 1080p, so i thought that i would be throwing my money away and decided to wait for Maxwell or for an AMD refresh as i have a feeling 2gb of vram wont cut it in this years games, even in 1080p same goes for GPU power. This is what i do when it comes to purchasing games i usually wait for system requirements or better yet reading here in the gaming section for feedback on how a game runs, and if i cant at least max it out without AA i wait until a upgrade my GPU to fully enjoy a game with max details.

I don't care who to blame for that. Im just sad because i expected thief to be the next "test" for mantle and i wanted to see how it performs there. I mean 1 game isn't much yet.

As i said above, it means the game will have Mantle as soon as its released, THE GAME, it is only saying on that slide, Mantle (Launch), to make it clear, that its not like BF4, as that got a Mantle patch, months after it was released, anyone can see that. If they didn't put that on the slide, everyone would have just thought right, the games coming out xxx day, and then we just have to wait (however long) for the Mantle patch for it, ala BF4. Also Mantle has already launched, has everyone forgot, AMD made a big song and dance about its launch in January, all those slides, Mantle, its coming in the 14.1 drivers, well correct me if im wrong, but those drivers are out, so it has launched.

They used to tack on DX 11 and now they tack on Mantle? Oh boy.

It's new and exciting! I really would like to see it finished and available so we can see more benchmarks though.

People... Until you stop pre-ordering ( or worse still - reading about an awful release and then buying it anyway ) unfinished products, you will continue receive increasingly unfinished products! It really isn't rocket science. The only language the powers that be at the software houses understand is the one spoken by your wallets.

FINALLY someone who speaks sense!! 😀 I for one will be passing on this game, maybe getting it in the Steam Summer Sale when its 50% off or over lol