They used to tack on DX 11 and now they tack on Mantle? Oh boy.

Honestly the game runs on UE3. That engine runs fairly well across the board. And the PC port devs are Nixxes which made the Hitman, Tomb Raider and Deus Ex ports and they all turned out pretty solid.

im not saying the game will not run great from the getgo even with dx11 i am confident that it will run sweet and the sound well i have a great sound card so i dont need that true audio from graphics card anyway..... im just posting the information and for yet again we the customer was promised something and yet again the gamer has to wait for that said support until a month later and by that time we all the consumer/gamer will have already completed the game by then... so there for whats the point lol

yeah im sick and tired of games coming out that are half arsed and piss poor ports when the company can take there time and release games that are COMPETE technically and don't require patches on launch for how ever long it takes they should release when they have it right not when its the best time to fill there pockets. You will always get people who are impatient though hence why we the gamer/customers have to put up with this crap every year nothing changes and i don't expect anything to change.

doesnt surprise me at all, mantle comes in 2nd place

People are too serious these days. What's the point of opening a whining thread?

looks like by the time mantle will be fully working everyone would've moved on. But it looks like every game will not have mantle support at launch. This is so bad for AMD. By the time the game get's mantle support no one will care about the game anyway. Such a bummer AMD. AMD keeps on blaming the developers and so on but then just tell them they must have support at launch or so. This is my first and last AMD card. I've learned my lesson now. Nvidia is always on the ball with driver support while AMD is just sitting and doing nothing. Whenever a game launches Nvidia is quick to support it in their drivers.

looks like by the time mantle will be fully working everyone would've moved on. But it looks like every game will not have mantle support at launch. This is so bad for AMD. By the time the game get's mantle support no one will care about the game anyway. Such a bummer AMD. AMD keeps on blaming the developers and so on but then just tell them they must have support at launch or so. This is my first and last AMD card. I've learned my lesson now. Nvidia is always on the ball with driver support while AMD is just sitting and doing nothing. Whenever a game launches Nvidia is quick to support it in their drivers.

Prescient too. LOL

flogging dead horse springs to mind

Could very well be. Current drivers probably do not work well at all in Thief and they just want to postpone those features to avoid issues.

enjoyed the BF4 mantle threads wonder when we get the first Thief mantle patch in march thread then in April .... guess they want to make sure thief runs well before adding mantle to it

I really don't see the issue here.

Good news, more time for a more polished version of Mantle. This API has proven remarquably efficient in BF4...and it's still in alpha stage !

Its probably because these games started development before mantle was announced, so mantle support is almost certainly something added on later in the dev cycle. I do agree they should be more straight up about mantle not launching WITH the game though, its annoying to buy a game expecting mantle support just to have them say "oh yeah actually we are patching it in later" a week before launch.

What if this is AMD's fault? We are yet to see a driver with official mantle support for 79xx cards.

It is AMDs fault, as they havn't got Mantle anywhere near ready yet, they got Dice to take the blame for them not having the driver ready, by getting them to delay the BF4 Mantle patch till January, but the truth was, they didn't have the Mantle driver ready. As if Dice delivered the Mantle patch on time in December, no one would have been able to have used it, until AMD got the Mantle driver out, and they didn't have that scheduled till late January (as they made a big song and dance about it coming sometime in January, at the start of it with all those slides), and its still not ready now, as the 14.1 is more like an Alpha. It should never have been released, but they had no choice but to put it out broken and unfinished, as Dice released the BF4 Mantle patch (which im guessing AMD didn't want then either), and also my guess, they've now got Square Enix to come out and say (to take the flack for them as well like Dice did, as the games already done, went Gold days/weeks ago), that they are now going to patch Mantle and TrueAudio into Thief sometime in March (so far), so they can hopefully get the driver finished by then, or a better working one done, as it was supposed to have had Mantle and TrueAudio from the get go!. I wouldn't be surprised though, if Mantle and TrueAudio are actually in it tbh, and they've just had to disable them thanks to AMD not being ready with the driver still, and then once AMD get the driver done, or a better working one out, they'll just magically release a patch for the game, that will just re-enable the options! 😀

I hate to be captain obvious, but mantle was never promised at release.

I hate to be captain obvious, but mantle was never promised at release.

It was.

link please, ive read most if not all of the press announcements and never once did it say at release.

http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/amd_alters_never_settle_program_with_battlefield_4_and_thief.html http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?ct=news&action=file&id=4781

i dont think that means what you think it does. but, ok for the moment ill buy it.

One would assume that if there's (Launch) after the first bullet, that would mean that it would be available at release. If they didn't meant that, well, way to make things unclear.