Star Wars Battlefront II Buyers Have Complaints Lots Of Them (updated)

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cartdog:

Developers and Publishers have forgotten how to make a simple game. Everything now is so complicated with season passes, DLC's, loot crates, credit systems etc. Why can't they go back to how games use to be back in the day (1995-mid 2000's).
The reason is they want the game to keep making money after the initial sale, the reason they make the in-game achievements hard to "achieve" is to make paying money to unlock those "achievements" more tempting to players that go ohh I want to try playing Luke Skywalker now I don't want to put the time in to achieve unlocking that character... They also want it to be addictive, the reason for "cards" and "loot creates" becoming so popular this year in other games, they are basically gambling techniques in the video game.
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From what I heard the 75% cut to the grind cost for characters comes with a decreased in-game income almost entirely making up for that 75% cut... So Darth Vader will cost 15K instead of 60K... but it'll take you 4 times longer to get that 15K making it the same as 60K previously. $80 games filled to the brim with pay2win mobile shit-fest micro transactions. And I bet they'll succeed.
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What's also bad is that Arcade co-op is missing from the PC version (Not even complaining about the lack of split screen co-op, but online co-op like even Battlefront (2015) had woud be expected at least). All kinds of game modes are missing from the predecessor, too. And don't get me started on the random gambling boxes that just ruin any fun of progression. I really don't get why you have to level in a multiplayer shooter anyhow. I miss the good old days where everything was available to everyone from the get-go and player skill was the only thing that counted.
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sverek:

How this game is not F2P? You can't just sell the game AND put shitload of gacha into it that affecting game balance. I am so glad people starting to draw a line.
Like with everything else, EA are using this to calculate how much they can get away with. They will calculate how many customers they think they've lost and then see how much profit they make from the micro transactions and then probably realize they're still making more money that way. Remember, these companies have entire departments dedicated to coming up with ways to make more profit no matter what the method is. And that includes calculating every little detail along the way. Nothing they do is by accident or a coincidence. If it seems like a scum-fuck attempt at nothing more than a cash-grab, that's precisely what it is, no matter what they (such as Riot Games) say. I don't remember the last time I bought an EA game and I sure as hell am not going to start buying any now.
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ubercake:

First, SW Battlefront is visually stunning and has great sound, but the lack of fun in the game play ruins all that. There was just something missing that I and a lot of other people just can't pinpoint. I tried to give it a chance and played for a couple of months and then I was done. No urge to go back. Then the model was used for Battlefield 1. Mind you, I used to be a huge Battlefield series fan. I played BF3 and BF4 for years almost exclusively; no other games with the exception of Rocksmith/2014. I thought EA taking over the Battlefield servers for Battlefield 1 would be a good thing from a fairness standpoint, but when they incorporated the lack of fun that went into SW Battlefront and the similar menu system, they ruined the series. I can't imagine buying Battlefront 2 as both series seem to have headed into parallel mediocre development paths. On the positive side, it got me playing other titles. Titanfall / Titanfall 2 and Destiny 2 seem to have that fun factor that drained out of the SWBF and BF series.
I have to say, I agree with this. Although I did not play SW: Battlefront in the first place, already knowing it's a toned down shooter for brainless people, it has killer graphics and sound. That I have to agree on, but it had nothing to offer of value... I couldn't even play with my friends in BETA, since you could only group up as 2 people... ridiculous in these times we live in, promoting social features and only grouping as a duo... Friends of mine bought the game (they played BF3 / BF4 too), but none of them kept on playing after two to three months. Then I tried to give BF1 a try, since I was a Battlefield player since BF1942, day 1 so to say. Only to find that it doesn't feel like it did anymore... I liked the setting of BF1, would have stuck to playing it, but at some point it just didn't capture me any more. Then SW:BF2, and I had hopes that they learned of the criticism they got from SW:BF in the first place, only to find they are making it worse, nothing more, nothing less. So now I am close to uninstalling origin, since the only thing on there that might get me to start that program is the Command and Conquer collection. EA just has a talent to change good things to make long time fans leave franchises. How they are still making money is beyond me, but not off me any more. Already 14 years ago a friend of mine warned me about EA being the evil empire... it took it's time, but now I can't disagree at all.
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Game will be plagued by cheaters : Legal ones and illegal ones ... Tell me i'm wrong.
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sverek:

DICE will always deliver on Engine, Graphics and Sound. Shame EA wastes all good job that DICE does.
Yes, indeed, it all went down hill when EA took them over. But that's the usual story if EA and take over are in the same sentence. Anybody remember the crack baby basketball episode from Southpark? It's awefully true...
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Redemption80:

I do think gamers only have themselves to blame though, if they keep spending millions on this then they are telling EA there is a market for this. Only a stupid company would not do this. .
You know what wil be next, a loot box season pass that will allow you to buy in game loot boxes with real money, that might reward you with access to the games actual season pass, which you already paid for by buying the super deluxe hyper free pants edition.....and people will still pre-order it. lol
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This is why cash shops in game are bad idea and perfect example of how it can go wrong. after seeing how EA treats Swtor which it treats it as cashshop above all other things. I saw this happen to other starwars games. not that this only happen to starwars games.
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Everyone needs to point their justified anger towards Corporate Commander.. Get him fired and all will be well.. 🙂
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Not surprised by any of this considering EA was voted the worst company multiple times.
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Redemption80:

Not that i'm a big believer in excessive regulation, but from what i have read loot boxes seem very much to be a gamble so should be classified as such. Reminds me of Lottery Scratchcards.
Loot boxes are designed with psychologists on their staff to abuse those susceptible to gambling problems. They should be classified as gambling by any civilized society.
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Neo Cyrus:

Loot boxes are designed with psychologists on their staff to abuse those susceptible to gambling problems. They should be classified as gambling by any civilized society.
And rated for containing gambling on the video games case cover + disc / card or digital version online store that it is being sold at.... I mean there are rating classifications for Violence, Sexual Content, Drug Use.. and many other things....... there should be a rating for Containing Gambling.
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"the game developer said on Twitter that he has received seven death threats." Although I do not support and encourage any kind of terrorism, I must say that I deeply sympathize with the guys who are revolted with such disgusting policies, practiced by greedy companies like this one. I would personally like to meet some guys (developers/owners) from Warthunder and/or Wargaming, for example, to give them a lecture or two in kick boxing, free of charge...
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I do agree that lootboxes essentially are gaming, which is okay, as long as you don't have to pay with real money and still be able to properly keep to F2P gaming. Only that it's hardly possible in most cases I believe. It's just that we probably can't do anything besides not buying such games / loot boxes with real currency.
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EA has gona off the deepend and have gone to far, i dont even blame developers for this it most likly the publisher saying do it, the dev take the heat for it and publisher just goes in to PR mode. Loot crates or luck box or cash shop box SHOULD NEVER BE IN GAME had to pay for in first place im just gona post this here and then hide https://twitter.com/ZenOfDesign/status/930809632859344896
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that is the point there should not be cash crates of anykind in game that had to be bought in first place. and even at that and thing from the "cash" shop should only be cosmetic