Please do call me conspiracy looney or whatever you want. That million people will be the rich people of the world, living in extrem luxury on Mars, on a clean, spacious planet, while on earth 10 billion overcrowded slaves will provide for the 1 million rulers, being controled in the ultimate dystopia by robotic police force. Do you think he's doing this for the good of mankind ? No, he's doing it for his billionaire friends. We're just sheep or cows to milk for them.

Why keep the slaves on the luscious green planet with an abundance of water and food? It would probably be the other way around where they would ship all slaves and criminals to the red barren rock while they live in luxury here on Earth. Environmentalist are always saying that humans are the problem and that we're destroying the planet. What better way to save Earth than shipping all those useless eaters to another planet.:heh:

Well not the craziest thing this guy has said of late http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/elon-musk-ai-artificial-intelligence-computer-simulation-gaming-virtual-reality-a7060941.html Lol you're f*cking mad mate, pushing the ever increasing levels of Nasa edits the photos madness aside you can actually f*cking see Mars with the naked eye and you can clearly see it has a red hue (glint) to it. I don't care what badger smoking nut bar project Musk comes up with next, he's moving in to the crazy grandad of the tech world, I am going to hide in the garden shed and beat the mole men that live in my garden with my slippers, yes grandad you sure are. The only difference is that Elon Musk has the money to make really big slippers and sit in a really big garden shed, not my money so I couldn't care less. I am more concerned about the one day when he actually does finally beat one of those mole men... sorry actually come up with some project that isn't bat sh*t insane and it does actually work.

Like what? 10 years ago all the people in the space industry thought landing a rocket was bat **** insane and impossible. 15 years ago people were saying that a new entrant into the American automotive market was impossible given the market conditions. 5 years ago, the idea of taking a maglev train and shoving it into a vacuum seemed far fetched - but now there are companies working on that as well. I think 10 years for a mars mission is definitely a bit of a stretch - but I don't really understand how people can sit here and say "SpaceX has done nothing new thus far" or "Before someone starts saying how brilliant engineer he is, no he's not. He got rich on SW." There are like threads every day in the guru3d pub form complaining about rich people and here's a guy that pivoted from a financial company into traveling to Russia to learn to build rockets + electric cars (soon for the masses) and they are ****ting on him anyway. Also simulation theory has been around for a while, that's not something he came up with.

Well not the craziest thing this guy has said of late http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/elon-musk-ai-artificial-intelligence-computer-simulation-gaming-virtual-reality-a7060941.html Lol you're f*cking mad mate, pushing the ever increasing levels of Nasa edits the photos madness aside you can actually f*cking see Mars with the naked eye and you can clearly see it has a red hue (glint) to it. I don't care what badger smoking nut bar project Musk comes up with next, he's moving in to the crazy grandad of the tech world, I am going to hide in the garden shed and beat the mole men that live in my garden with my slippers, yes grandad you sure are. The only difference is that Elon Musk has the money to make really big slippers and sit in a really big garden shed, not my money so I couldn't care less. I am more concerned about the one day when he actually does finally beat one of those mole men... sorry actually come up with some project that isn't bat sh*t insane and it does actually work.

Molemen are the same as thinking the Universe may be part of a simulation. What a weird comparison. The simulation bit is really no different from religion. Actually, it's slightly better, at least there is part of a somewhat logical train of thought. No idea why you'd discount someone, who has already done a ton, over it.

Thank god people like Elon exist. I would of never imagined we would have actual plans to step foot on mars in my lifetime. As for the people doubting him, you should donate all the money you have to SpaceX. That way when you turn out wrong you can at least have been supporting in one way when he proves the haters wrong.

Sorry but if you don't know how to construct a proper phrase in English, your credibility is somewhat questionable. IE the validity of anything you say is undoubtedly something that certain people will not trust. Why am I saying this? Well, I am what they call a grammar nazi. Though I like to think of it as educating people. I also had to say it, due to your mention of "doubt" and "prove wrong". 🙂 **Would HAVE** (never "of")

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No idea why you'd discount someone, who has already done a ton, over it.

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Like what? 10 years ago all the people in the space industry thought landing a rocket was bat **** insane and impossible. 15 years ago people were saying that a new entrant into the American automotive market was impossible given the market conditions. 5 years ago

Put simply what Elon Musk has done with these examples doesn't even rate in the annuals of achievement in comparison to the task of putting a man in orbit of Mars let alone getting them to the surface, setting up a working colony, placing the infrastructure in place to keep them alive over time, keeping them alive (human condition) and then getting them back home again. To date his projects have been tiny tiny drops when you compare them to what he is proposing here which ever way you slice it the projects mentioned (Tesla) and (Space X) are drops in the water in their own fields, projects of limited success when compared to the market they are in (though Space X is still early enough that it may turn out a lot bigger than it currently is) and I am afraid that taking people to live on Mars is not a project where you can have limited success, it is a project that either works 100% of time EVERY time or people die and Elon Musk's project are, so far anything other than works 100% of time EVERY time. Then again I may be wrong he may do it.. then again it's taken him more than 10 years to get a niche level of success electric car on the road so....

Just because you pay taxes doesn't mean you get to have your way with every single dollar used for them. Your share is so infinitesimally small as to be completely irrelevant. The taxes you pay could disappear tomorrow and the budget wouldn't need to change a single bit, no one would ever know. So, to be clear, you don't fund him in any way, you don't even directly fund most of the things in your home city.

Meh, I'm just tired of Elon. Everyone praises him for making Tesla which isn't even profitable. It's not even close to profitable. I'm not sure what kind of business model that follows, but I can't think favorably of him. It's hilarious that it's government funded and that they make cars for upper class people. I'm going to stop there because I'm just going to get worked up about it and make a scene. It isn't worth it.

Why keep the slaves on the luscious green planet with an abundance of water and food?

Not for long. At the rate we're polluting it, it will be a dead planet very soon... just find some videos about the rate of forest destruction in the past century. And desertification of the planet.

It would probably be the other way around where they would ship all slaves and criminals to the red barren rock

Incorrect. If you look at the video, as mars spins faster it becomes more blue, with water. Yes, terraforming. And guess what ? FRESH planet, no pollution, no A-bombs detonated on it, no nuclear accidents, no gigantic pile of garbage in the middle of the ocean...

while they live in luxury here on Earth. Environmentalist are always saying that humans are the problem and that we're destroying the planet. What better way to save Earth than shipping all those useless eaters to another planet.:heh:

Or perhaps we should educate our children to take care of the planet. Oh wait... we're buying them iPhones and Galaxy's to find Pokemons and stay of Facebook all day long. Good job humanity ! That's our future, a race of phone zombies. No wonder the rich want to live in that Elysium space station ... or on Mars.

Maybe try getting to the moon first and then setup base there. Please don't fake it like NASA. Why haven't we been back, Because we never went. ahahahaahhaahahha

Good story,nice plan. But on Mars dont fly every casual citizen,only the choosen ones. The movies and games always show us the future reality.The One Government will be true. When will you laugh at this,then I laugh at you when the reality will come with that Government. 😉 Billions from every rich people will make this planet habitable for "Elite" not for you,for you,for you. There are billions of money from rich people.They dont want You,citizen,to be involved in this work. Dreams are always nice,but the reality is always so Strong. 🙂

The whole point of this is to lower the cost of moving there to the same average as a house in the US, which is around $200,000 as a mortgage. So it's basically the exact opposite of what you say. Also if I were the elites, I wouldn't be hanging around in a place that I can only breathe (literally), if supplies from the "oppressed" Earth arrive, presenting the easiest possible target at the same time. But f*ck logic right?

Incorrect. If you look at the video, as mars spins faster it becomes more blue, with water. Yes, terraforming.

and IF we could terraform how long would THAT take and more importantly what would stop the newly terraformed atmosphere from being blown back in to space? I mean we could send big Arnie up there as the first visitor and I guess he could have a moral quandry about turning on the Alien reactor but what happens if that doesn't work?

And guess what ? FRESH planet, no pollution

Well not until we try terraforming it

no A-bombs detonated on it, no nuclear accidents

Yep no A Bombs but which ever way we look at we will need to send some sort of nuclear based power production system up there even if it's something like an RTG if we want to live there we will need a power source that is going to give power no matter what and last a long time that means something nuclear.

no gigantic pile of garbage in the middle of the ocean...

Well that's a given but only because their isn't any oceans there.

Please don't fake it like NASA. Why haven't we been back, Because we never went.

Hooo boy :3eyes:

Well, somebody has to be the first to try. I mean it's inevitable, so why delay it.