Some bugs in Win 10 (1803) fixed, others persist

386SX

2018-07-02 09:24

... but but but ... can it BSOD at Crysis? :-D Somehow it seems no enterprise users (or almost none) are testing Win10, because most of the bugs mentioned are bugs which occur more in enterprise (or at least SMB = Small to Medium Businesses) areas. SMB is a typical way to provide a share to network users, VLANs are set up to provide separate networks within one network and WSUS is another thing for (almost exclusive) corporate use. But to be honest: MS always had its problems with WSUS, not only on Win10 or Server 2016. "WSUS not seeing updates" is a well known issue every now and then, together with "WSUS installs what it wants" or "WSUS doesn't see machines" or "WSUS rolls out the wrong patches". Strange enough I use Win10 1803 and did not run into these issues, neither in a workgroup nor in a domain. But I do not use Edge or HomeGroups and have almost no need for VLANs (I use three at my work), so probably that is why I am not affected by these issues (or at least I do not notice). If your WSUS or WIndows Update does not see it, get it from here:

http://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB4284848

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nevcairiel

2018-07-02 10:20

All these reported issues usually only affect very small minorities of the users, but pointing that out would remove some of the "sensation" from the reports, of course. The only issue I'm currently facing is that Windowed-GSYNC doesn't work on 1803, but Windowed-GSYNC was always sort-of a hack and its probably not Microsofts fault, and NVIDIA is working on it to fix it.

#5561875

cryohellinc

2018-07-02 10:40

nevcairiel:

All these reported issues usually only affect very small minorities of the users, but pointing that out would remove some of the "sensation" from the reports, of course. The only issue I'm currently facing is that Windowed-GSYNC doesn't work on 1803, but Windowed-GSYNC was always sort-of a hack and its probably not Microsofts fault, and NVIDIA is working on it to fix it.

Oh yes, its always "small minority of users" up until it affects you. Issue is an issue, regardless of how many it affects.

#5561876

KissSh0t

2018-07-02 10:42

They will release a good build of 10 one of these days.... *stares off into the distance* one of these days.

#5561881

Corrupt^

2018-07-02 11:07

Isn't SMBv1 disabled by default? Anyhow we're phasing it out at work as it's considered a security risk nowadays.

#5561891

TheDeeGee

2018-07-02 11:54

Corrupt^:

Isn't SMBv1 disabled by default? Anyhow we're phasing it out at work as it's considered a security risk nowadays.

It is since 1709 i believe? I have it enabled because i need it to reach my Mede8er MED500X via WiFi whenever i make my Videowall.

#5561947

mbk1969

2018-07-02 14:41

But in the world of programmers and project managers older persistent bugs are called "features".

#5561949

mbk1969

2018-07-02 14:43

vonSternberg:

Once Win7 becomes completely and utterly unusable, I'll probably switch to Linux or something. Can't bring myself to put this cancer in my computer.

Why Win7 becomes completely and utterly unusable?

#5561967

schmidtbag

2018-07-02 15:22

It seems MS's testing has been getting lazier and lazier the past few years. Are they trying to get people to switch to other OSes?

#5561984

PurSpyk!!

2018-07-02 16:09

Well the Insider program is a joke, no matter how many times issues get reported, things remain broken and unfixed. Its just the same old Microsoft, this is what we will gve you, test, report, we might fix. The interface is a mess, they update some icons, leave old icons, Control Panel, Settings, still all over the place, some option now take more clicks to find the same information.

#5562145

icedman

2018-07-02 23:55

maybe they should fix bluetooth from disappearing forever i disabled it some time ago and there is no way to bring it back even after endeless googling and attempts to do so i cant get my bluetooth back doesnt even show up that i have bluetooth.

#5562190

cryohellinc

2018-07-03 06:32

Mateja:

at what point to we get from 'it's perfect never had a problem'--to--'this OS is cancer' lol.

Haha EXACTLY.

#5562197

Robbo9999

2018-07-03 07:13

Mateja:

the conspiracy theorist in me suspects they're about to abandon this branding of 'windows' because of all the stigma. maybe they'll come out with some totally different named OS if this really is the last windows, at some point when the software has to be majorly rewritten. maybe windows 10 is the beta for that. or even change their company name like google/alphabet. eternal beta x_x we're all lab rats lol.

Ha, that's a very interesting idea! Releasing a new/different OS with a different name does seem like a plausible & potentially good idea, and it gets round the 'last version of Windows" thing. Risky though!

#5562216

sykozis

2018-07-03 08:09

schmidtbag:

It seems MS's testing has been getting lazier and lazier the past few years. Are they trying to get people to switch to other OSes?

The biggest thing stopping most people from switching to another OS is familiarity.... Most people are already familiar with Windows and stick with it due to this. For the average user, ChromeOS is more than capable enough. Unfortunately, the few desktops it's available on are a bit slower or overpriced for what they're actually capable of. MacOS is a fine replacement for Windows, but again, familiarity and pricing are big barriers for most people. Even Linux desktops and laptops seem to be largely priced higher than their Windows counter-parts, but most people don't want to learn Linux anyway. As long as people refuse to learn and adapt, MS will have to try a lot harder to push people away.

#5562296

schmidtbag

2018-07-03 14:49

sykozis:

The biggest thing stopping most people from switching to another OS is familiarity.... Most people are already familiar with Windows and stick with it due to this. For the average user, ChromeOS is more than capable enough. Unfortunately, the few desktops it's available on are a bit slower or overpriced for what they're actually capable of. MacOS is a fine replacement for Windows, but again, familiarity and pricing are big barriers for most people.

I 100% agree - I've been telling people the same sort of thing myself. In fact, despite being an extensive Linux user, I actually don't hate W10 (unlike many people here, who strictly use Windows). But anyway, MS knows W10 isn't super attractive, with familiarity just being one of many problems, so the fact that they're not paying close enough attention to their patches really isn't helping people want to switch.

Even Linux desktops and laptops seem to be largely priced higher than their Windows counter-parts, but most people don't want to learn Linux anyway. As long as people refuse to learn and adapt, MS will have to try a lot harder to push people away.

Yeah, unfortunately without the adware and other useless crap that comes with computers, the Linux models don't get discounted that much. I'd gladly buy a laptop specific for Linux, but most of the time I could get an equivalent Windows laptop for cheaper. Since I intend to wipe the drive clean anyway, the downside of what makes that laptop cheaper becomes totally irrelevant.

#5562407

Corrupt^

2018-07-04 00:53

ViRGE:

"restore partitions getting assigned drive letters on install remains with 1803" Yes, my 450mb partition now its called G, nice, want to know the best part? Windows gives alerts of "low storage on local disk G", and because it's an critical alert it pops inside games! just great!!! needless to say that no user should dig into the registry to disable an useful alert, but M$ thinks so.

You could simply do some stuff with diskpart to actually fix this. Though I do agree it's kind of silly when the OS screws up that partition itself. Once had a double recovery partition that screwed everything up after one of the yearly updates. You can actually fix this using DISM & DISKPART.

#5562470

KissSh0t

2018-07-04 09:13

My favorite update was the one that killed the wireless card driver, the exact card model for me being the "ASUS PCE-AC68 Dual Band Wireless AC1900 PCI-E Adapter"... then having to buy a very long Ethernet cable to run it to the router on the other side of the house just to get connected to the internet. It took them a few months to fix that "new feature". GG Microsoft.

#5562662

nevcairiel

2018-07-04 23:55

ViRGE:

"restore partitions getting assigned drive letters on install remains with 1803" Yes, my 450mb partition now its called G, nice, want to know the best part? Windows gives alerts of "low storage on local disk G", and because it's an critical alert it pops inside games! just great!!! needless to say that no user should dig into the registry to disable an useful alert, but M$ thinks so.

Just remove the letter mapping instead of disabling the warning. So much easier solution huh.