It will be like a rumble of rolling thunder!

Hoping for 8 cores at 4.8Ghz as rumors have been saying for some time..

Hang on, I didn't even think of that. So used to buying completely new hardware in the past. Does that mean that, if my manufacturer releases the corresponding AGESA update for my AX370 mainboard, I can put a shiny, new Ryzen 3000 series on it and be a happy guy?

Think i'll hold off till zen3+ since that will be on AM4 as well.

ROG CROSSHAIR VI HERO already up-to-dated. https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-CROSSHAIR-VI-HERO/HelpDesk_Download/

HWgeek:

IMO at stock settings there will be no problem for current boards, the problem will start with PBO and OCing for simple VRM boards.

This, as it was with Ryzen 2xxx and x3xx series MBs... If you do not overclock and the TDP does not exceeds 95W for x3xx series and 105W for x4xx there should be no issues at all. Decebt x3xx and x4xx MBs should support 115W without problems

It's worth pointing out that Biostar also already has this update available, oddly enough. I haven't yet upgraded to it, mostly because I don't yet have any intention on getting the 3000 series CPUs and Biostar's updates seem to have a tendency to cripple my overclocks.

FuriousAngel:

Hang on, I didn't even think of that. So used to buying completely new hardware in the past. Does that mean that, if my manufacturer releases the corresponding AGESA update for my AX370 mainboard, I can put a shiny, new Ryzen 3000 series on it and be a happy guy?

In addition to what Humanoid_1 said, it's worth pointing out that if you buy an old board with a 300 series chipset, there is very slim chance it will boot properly on these new CPUs without the BIOS update. So, unless you already have some old Ryzen lying around and intend to upgrade, you're better off either buying a 300 series board known to be ready for the Ryzen 3000 series out-of-the-box, or, just buy the newest chipset. Also, I'm sure there will be some tweaks here and there related to XFR or power-related benefits that you won't get from a 300 series chipset, if you care about such things. At least for overlockers, this is pretty much a non-issue.

HWgeek:

Please be Aware! AGESA 0070 for ASUS broke PBO on X470 MB's, same with the beta bios for some MSI boards too, after contacting ASUS they work on solution and released new BIOS with AGESA 0072 version 4602 few days ago (I shared it on thread) and now PBO works, it will be up in the next few days on the official support page. https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/SocketAM4/PRIME_X470-PRO/PRIME-X470-PRO-ASUS-4602.zip more in this PBO bug: https://www.overclock.net/forum/11-amd-motherboards/1690489-asus-prime-x470-pro-issues-successes-37.html So check before updating if the new Bios is bug free .

Thanks for this info, I'm rebuilding a X470 Prime system this week for a family member. Glad I saw this or I might have used the previous BIOS I downloaded!

Humanoid_1:

It is dependent on how good the power circuitry is on the motherboard and whether it can support the additional power requirements of some of the higher end new chips. While 370 / 470 board should be fairly good, lower end 350 / 450 boards often have far inferior power phases and number of them also. I'm sure the manufacturers will only add support for chips that fall within cautious margins. I specifically chose my board due to it's above average for a 470 power phase setup so it will have enough power for any of these new chips as it has a Lot of headroom and remains cool under load.

This is something I have tought about lot, but we have to remember that very basic motherboards will be released even with the 500-chipset. They support the latest processors, but you really shouldn't overclock those. There is no reason why the older more basic motherboards shouldn't get the same treatment. ... I for one own an mATX-case, which meant when 1000-series was released that you had no options than to get a pretty basic motherboard because the selection was slim. If I want a new more powerful Ryzen chip and plan to overclock it, it's better to buy a new motherboard too, which kind of sucks. Other solution is to wait even longer for later Zen-processors and just not overclock them, since I assume every AM4-processor will work on any motherboard no matter how cheap, if it is not overclocked. Upgrading from 1000-series to 3000-series returns too little gains without overclocking will be likely the case. Do not excpect any great XFR results from a cheap board though. Those who have ATX-case and bought a decent board like MSI X370 Pro Carbon or similiar are good to go and invested wisely. You don't need any better, but lesser can be a compromise in the future. Given my situation though, going with Intel would have resulted the same - you need a new motherboard nonetheless. I bought R7 1700 for gaming and I have not yet seen pretty much any case where it performs better than i5-8400, which is a shame to be honest, but I was one of the early adopters and Intel 8000-series wasn't available yet when I upgraded my system. I'm happy with my R7 1700 in any case, but the motherboard selection has to be much better when 500-chipset enters the market.

@GamerNerves I agree. It's worth pointing out that if the rumors of the 3000 series are true, these new chips are all running nearly 1GHz higher than previous generations with higher core counts and yet their TDPs aren't really any higher. I'm sure most X370 or X470 boards with 8-pin EPS connectors have VRMs sufficient to handle the new CPUs. I'd bet that people will probably suffer stability issues due to thermals before power delivery becomes a problem, when it comes to the 8+ core models. If you intend to OC enough to warrant liquid cooling, you're probably better off with a 400 or 500 series chipset.

I have a very positive vibe about this new cpus 😀 , get ready it has begun ...

^ I've got a MSI B350M Gaming Pro, we should be alright. They do tend to release the X370/470 BIOS updates first.

HWgeek:

Please be Aware! AGESA 0070 for ASUS broke PBO on X470 MB's, same with the beta bios for some MSI boards too, after contacting ASUS they work on solution and released new BIOS with AGESA 0072 version 4602 few days ago (I shared it on thread) and now PBO works, it will be up in the next few days on the official support page. https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/SocketAM4/PRIME_X470-PRO/PRIME-X470-PRO-ASUS-4602.zip more in this PBO bug: https://www.overclock.net/forum/11-amd-motherboards/1690489-asus-prime-x470-pro-issues-successes-37.html So check before updating if the new Bios is bug free .

not an issue if you do not use PBO and that crap called ryzen master.

schmidtbag:

@GamerNerves I agree. It's worth pointing out that if the rumors of the 3000 series are true, these new chips are all running nearly 1GHz higher than previous generations with higher core counts and yet their TDPs aren't really any higher.

TDP is not a measure of power consumption, it's a measure of heat production of the chip. A lot of motherboards have a 4 or 6 phase design with doubler(s). For instance the 370 Taichi has a 6+2 phase design and we need to wait and see if it will handle a 10-12 core chip.

GlennB:

TDP is not a measure of power consumption, it's a measure of heat production of the chip. A lot of motherboards have a 4 or 6 phase design with doubler(s). For instance the 370 Taichi has a 6+2 phase design and we need to wait and see if it will handle a 10-12 core chip.

I'm well aware, but it still works as a very rough guideline of what the motherboard (and your cooler) can handle. So, it's still relevant. Like I said before, don't expect to be overclocking the 10+ core chips, but they should still work just fine. Their boost clocks probably will be limited but that's more of a chipset limitation rather than power power delivery.

i want the next gen ryzen cpu takeing donations soon i joke 😛:p

Still using the launch bios on my aorus board any bios after that limits the voltage So bad I can only get 3.9 on my 2600 i get 4.1 on launch bios wtf???

It doesn't seem to be out for my Asrock Fatal1ty X370 Gaming K4 yet, but I'll keep checking periodically for it. The motherboard certainly has the power phases to handle the upgrade and since it's one of the mid upper range options from Asrock I think it's fairly likely to be supported.

Some 400 chipset boards MAY qualify for Gen 4 signalling when paired with a 3x00 cpu, its not likely to be very many though.

Just found this by changing the numbers on the supportlink for ASUS Prime B350 Plus https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/SocketAM4/PRIME_B350-PLUS/PRIME-B350-PLUS-ASUS-4602.zip? But I havent tried it yet. Edit: Just flashed it, seems to be working okay. I can now run my ballistix elite 3466 at advertizeed speed, nice!