Samsung Unveils 8K Resolution QLED TV with 8K AI Upscaling
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RavenMaster
Is anyone even filming movies in 8K yet?
Richard Nutman
Even if there was 8K content, most people simply wouldn't be able to fit the right size TV in their lounges to appreciate it. Most 4K sets sold aren't even big enough when you factor in the average seating distances.
I'd rather see bandwidth used for 444 colour first.
fry178
@ everyone
please throw away all your FHD tvs, because we dont have 1080P/50Mbit "cable" signal either,
if the argument "no content" is applied correctly...
@Richard Nutman
lol. seating distance isnt "fixed", and will change based on screen height divided by 2 for 4K, so for 8K should be 1-1.5 times screen height.
tailspin
So they have a universally accepted 8k video cable/plug to connect into your AV receiver, 8k UHD disk player ,your 8k PC video card or 8k Xbox or 8k PlayStation? I'm thinking "no".
RavenMaster
While your eyeballs melt in their sockets 😛
RavenMaster
Not to mention the retarded DRM's that stop you from playing your movies even when you bought all the capable hardware and software that was required. Yes i am still salty that 4K Blu Ray playback is dead on PC thanks to it requiring f***ing Intel SGX via an onboard Intel iGPU.
Richard Nutman
The vast majority of people do not position their sofa's/chairs according to screen height. Typically 2 to 3 metres away normally. So that would imply 120" TV by your calculation ?
JJayzX
I've been saying it from beginning about 4k being the stepping stone to 8k like 720 was to 1080. This has been planned before there was any news of 4k tv's coming out. There's already higher resolutions for future.
fry178
@Richard Nutman
Because i dont care about "most ppl" seating distance,
as that is personal preference and not related to the tech/tv used.
Im talking about minimum recommended distance to NOT see pixels.
And i was already "generous", as its already down to x1.5 for 4ks, meaning 5 to 6ft on a 85".
One reason why i "laugh" about ppl buying bigger screens, only to sit further away (than before), and thus having zero gain from buying a bigger one in the first place, as larger tv means larger (min) distance.
Unless of course, you increase the res on the screen at the same time (e.g. FHD to UHD).
Brasky
Good, this will help drive down the prices of the 4k eventually. Tech keeps moving forward.
nick0323
Pfft, I've only just started my hunt for a 4k TV and no manufacturer sells one with the three things I want. Dolby Vision, Dolby Atmos and Freesync. I'm hoping more manufacturers other than Samsung jump on the Freesync bandwagon as the Xbox One (which supports those three things I want) overall is a great media player.
fry178
@nick0323
dolby atmos wont make a difference.
for "true" DA sound you need a DA enabled amp and a dedicated speaker in the ceiling.
everything else is just done virtual.
so not really what i would consider a focus ppoint when buying a tv, as by the time the sound quality is decent, it wont be coming from the tv's speaker anyway (rather than soundbar or HT)
except maybe the sony A1/A8 series (whole screen is speaker) with added sub/rear (but would still be virtual).
tsunami231
I dont buy that crap, if scaling of ui and everything else was done right for the said 2k 4k 8k etc this argument would be moot.
1080p on 32" look better then on 40"
just like
4k looks better one 40" then on 55"
just like
8k will look better on a 50" vs 60"
Not mater the distance you view at.
Large screen need to be view at farther distance then small screen, other wise you can't really view the whole screen. have you tried to pay attention to everything on 55" at 2 feet? you eye will go crazy. Resolution has and ALWAYS will look better on smaller screen vs bigger one, only issue is ui scaling which is still rather bad.
if 5" phones screen can do 4k and soon 8k with out issue so can TV's and Monitors. I seen 4K on those phones and the image is ridiculously clear
Aura89
You stuck in 2015?
You realize they gotta start somewhere..right? As well as why it's specifically stated the AI 8K upconvert?....
Valken
I am looking forward to 8K for many reasons:
720p/1080p transition... it happened and I predict this may so long as prices are relatively reasonable
Use for HD monitors - yes a LOT of people I know use 4K TVs as their monitors in the living room. Game + Movies for 1 good TV is cost savings for many so 8K would be better. It is also cheaper per square inch/cm than gaming monitors in general. You can buy a 45-55" 4K TV now for less than many smaller 4K monitors. 60 FPS is good enough for most so 8K60FPS or 4K120/240 FPS would be perfect.
Prices will come down eventually... by the time GPUs are "really" ready for 4K/120 FPS, it can power 8K good enough.
Most TV buyers keep this for a long time like 5 to 10 years. The TV is a better long term buy vs use than PCs as it does not really get replaced that fast or outdated so better to push 8K out asap and drive down 4K HDR at the same time.
AAA content will be 4K available and slowly as prices come down, so will B grade. Hell, Pr0n is already 4K and VR. Get with the program! 😀
I sit ~ 8 FT away for movie viewing and 2 foot for PC use. Can use 4k/8K screen depending on uses.
Denial
Idk I feel like most of Amazon Prime and Netflix's original series are all 4K and most support HDR/DV?
fry178
@tsunami231
sure, but once you take min distance into account, there is no difference (on how much of the screen i can see) between the different sizes,
as long as res gets increased as well (e.g. keeping similar ppi).
looking at around 90ppi, its 24in for 1080p, 48in for UHD,
8K would be fine for up to 96"
@deusex
and there is no 1080p/50MBit aka BD quality signal on cable neither.
you still have a 1080p tv, right?...
besides that, most movies/shows are actually shot in 4K and downs scaled to 1080p for streaming.
decent tvs, especially sony have a database recognizing what the source/original res was and reproduce a picture thats very close, usually matching a 1080p BD in quality.
if everything would work that way (always have matching "stuff"), no one would buy things like a corvette or Porsche (do "you" own a race track??).
you have to start somewhere, and especially with larger sizes than 40in you more or less need 4K res so not to bottleneck at the screen (but rather the source),
the same way i like a car that can go faster than the speed limit (55/65 etc), rather than my car not able to go past 55 mph (as more isnt needed, right?).
Aura89
No one even remotely specified cable/etc. for 4K content, considering cable/satellite/etc. barely do 1080p, with 1080i as its standard, no one should be surprised 4K on there isn't a thing yet, and when it is, it'll likely be highly, highly compressed. That doesn't mean some TV shows aren't filmed and eventually released in 4K, breaking bad for instance.
As to amazon/netflix, yes, there's tons of content on there for 4K, most everything i watch are in 4K these days.
Same goes for blu-ray 4K, most everything i watch on disc, is on blu-ray 4K.
Realistically, unless you're strictly looking at cable and etc., then most things that are new releases have 4K versions of them you can watch.
tsunami231
@fry178
even if I watch the tv of said sized at there reccommneded distances I see the diffrence , which why i never bought into that crap about higher res needs largers screens
sat/cable is already highly compressed, that standard still seem to be 720p/1080i in rare cases and when really is 1080p, it dont come close to actual 1080p quality, I think 720p/1080p on netflix in 99% cases looks worlds better then 720p/1080p sat/cable claim
Neo Cyrus
I assumed they film in super high resolution then scale it down to 4K? Don't tell me some shitty companies actually record in 4K?
300 nits is enough to blind you. I don't know if there's some new level of super blind where you blind yourself so hard that you're blinded in an alternate reality, but that's what you seem to be going for by wanting 4K nits.
