And what happens in 2-3 years? You'll pay ~1800€ if you want a 5080Ti card. Or you'll pay 800€ for a 5060 card.
i hope that dont happen, if does I will be done with pc gaming for while. x60 series was predominately 300-350 cards till the 2xxx series i expecting them to go up another 50-100$ this gen which enough for think about if i really want new card. never mind the 200 tdp crap.
Getting the PS5 was best gaming investment i made in years, as far as i concerned
I grabbed Metro exodus on the series X console and was stunned at what the games devs had done to impliment ray tracing and global illuminations in the game, stunning to say the least, and i did not think RT was possible on a £450, but here it is doing ray tracing, i mean the bang for buck on these console at present is out of this world.
Yeah I agree. What they did there was awesome. And I've been saying it for over a year now since the game released. Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart for PS5 is visually the most advanced looking game I have played. It's been almost 2 years since it was released. Nothing on PC touches it. Not with a $1,700 dollar 4090, or anything else. Which I have said previously, these cards are powerful, PC is powerful but what is that power doing? Ports? Console gamers get a game 3 years ahead of a pc gamer and the pc gamer can boast about aa/af and some higher textures when the game is already dated regardless of those additions. It's just a different landscape now.
Realistically PC should be pushing out exclusive titles with bleeding edge visuals and new gameplay experiences that you can't have on console. But zero developers want to take that chance or spend the time and money on the platform. I have to stop myself sometimes and ask what am I trying to upgrade for? FOMO? Another example is Forza 5. Thanks to Dolby Vision, the game looks much better on Series X than on PC. Something about how Dolby Vision was used (one of the first games built ground up for it) compared to HDR that gives it a more realistic look. There's so many instances like these where console is really running laps around PC. And as a PC first guy for so many years, it still stings to say it. But it's really become that.
You can buy a PS5, XBOX Series X and Switch for the price of a 4090 and still have money left to buy a few games.
I would list the following as legendary cards (from what I can remember).
ATi 9800 Pro
Nvidia 6800GT
ATi X1900XTX
Nvidia 8800GTX/9800GTX+ (same card)
Nvidia 8800GT/9800GT (same card)
AMD HD7970GHz (birth of GCN and fine wine which lasted probably for a little too long)
Nvidia GTX970 (sure it came with 3.5GB of usable VRAM but it was still a great card)
Nvidia GTX1070 (this card lasted some people so damn long)
AMD RX480/RX580 (still a decent card for low/med 1080p)
Nvidia GTX1060 6GB (still the most popular GPU probably ever)
Nvidia 1080Ti (still a monster GPU at 1080p/1440p and light 4K gaming)
I will also argue that the current AMD RX6800XT at its current prices (around £500-£600) is a steal and will become a legendary GPU in time.
I would personally put the 9700 pro ahead or, in with the 9800 pro. The 9700 Pro is what got ATI on the map and their first lead over Nvidia thanks to their proper implementation of DX9. Man I loved that card. 6800GT was nvidias response to their blundered 5000 series and I agree, it was the sweet spot. Many got that thing to OC to ultra levels.
I would personally put the 9700 pro ahead or, in with the 9800 pro. The 9700 Pro is what got ATI on the map and their first lead over Nvidia thanks to their proper implementation of DX9. Man I loved that card. 6800GT was nvidias response to their blundered 5000 series and I agree, it was the sweet spot. Many got that thing to OC to ultra levels.
I never had the 9700 Pro I went straight from a Geforce2 MX to a 9800 Pro so I can't comment on that.
I also had a 6800GT which was an amazing GPU. I remember running F.E.A.R on that card at 1280x1024 at near max settings and hitting around the 40-70fps mark and was blown away. My 9800 Pro crumbled with that game.
I had the 6800GT card with Doom3 on the GPU 🙂
This one 😀
I never had the 9700 Pro I went straight from a Geforce2 MX to a 9800 Pro so I can't comment on that.
I also had a 6800GT which was an amazing GPU. I remember running F.E.A.R on that card at 1280x1024 at near max settings and hitting around the 40-70fps mark and was blown away. My 9800 Pro crumbled with that game.
I had the 6800GT card with Doom3 on the GPU 🙂
This one 😀
@CPC_RedDawn you forgot the immortals r290/x r390/x they are even on legacy support 10 years old + and they still pump fps similar to a 580 😛
Oh damn, too true. Those cards were a huge put off for some people due to their rated 95C operating temps. But the 290X was a Titan killer and the last time AMD tried to take on Nvidia until the 6000 series. They were and still are pretty good cards. The toxic sapphire 290X was such a good card 🙂
Serotonin:
That was the BFG edition I think?
I think it was either BFG or XFX back when they made Nvidia cards.
I specifically remember it came in I think the wrong box (it was second hand). I am sure it was a BFG card but it came in an XFX box where the box was shaped like an X and had the CGI wolf on the front. I always remember thinking this isn't right somehow, why is there a CGI wolf on the front but Doom3 on the card??? lol
Sure it was this box but the card was 100% the doom3 card.
I would list the following as legendary cards (from what I can remember).
ATi 9800 Pro
Nvidia 6800GT
ATi X1900XTX
Nvidia 8800GTX/9800GTX+ (same card)
Nvidia 8800GT/9800GT (same card)
AMD HD7970GHz (birth of GCN and fine wine which lasted probably for a little too long)
Nvidia GTX970 (sure it came with 3.5GB of usable VRAM but it was still a great card)
Nvidia GTX1070 (this card lasted some people so damn long)
AMD RX480/RX580 (still a decent card for low/med 1080p)
Nvidia GTX1060 6GB (still the most popular GPU probably ever)
Nvidia 1080Ti (still a monster GPU at 1080p/1440p and light 4K gaming)
I will also argue that the current AMD RX6800XT at its current prices (around £500-£600) is a steal and will become a legendary GPU in time.
580gtx was a decent card, certainly a big step up from the 480gtx. I went from a 285gtx to a 580gtx, my 280gtx dies so EVGA gave me a 285gtx, very good CS.
Yeah I agree. What they did there was awesome. And I've been saying it for over a year now since the game released. Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart for PS5 is visually the most advanced looking game I have played. It's been almost 2 years since it was released. Nothing on PC touches it. Not with a $1,700 dollar 4090, or anything else. Which I have said previously, these cards are powerful, PC is powerful but what is that power doing? Ports? Console gamers get a game 3 years ahead of a pc gamer and the pc gamer can boast about aa/af and some higher textures when the game is already dated regardless of those additions. It's just a different landscape now.
Realistically PC should be pushing out exclusive titles with bleeding edge visuals and new gameplay experiences that you can't have on console. But zero developers want to take that chance or spend the time and money on the platform. I have to stop myself sometimes and ask what am I trying to upgrade for? FOMO? Another example is Forza 5. Thanks to Dolby Vision, the game looks much better on Series X than on PC. Something about how Dolby Vision was used (one of the first games built ground up for it) compared to HDR that gives it a more realistic look. There's so many instances like these where console is really running laps around PC. And as a PC first guy for so many years, it still stings to say it. But it's really become that.
You can buy a PS5, XBOX Series X and Switch for the price of a 4090 and still have money left to buy a few games.
Well hold the phone, i just tonight out of curiosity fired the game up on the Series S and be damned if it does not have the ray tracing and global illuminations, i mean the res is lower than the X, but the game is running with RT at 60 fps with a dynamic res and it look amazing, standing on the front of the train facing the sun on the horizon and seeing the suns light hit the water dropplets running down the front of the train engine is amazing, i have no idea how those game drvs did this but they did, on a console with 4 times less power and costing half the price of the X. :0
Interesting, thanks.
The 3080 is undervolted to 0.875v but still draws a bit more power than the 3070 in The Division 2 at same settings. I can try power limit.
You can do this via other tools too like MSI afterburner but the command line sets in the driver which imo is better.
I would list the following as legendary cards (from what I can remember).
ATi 9800 Pro
Nvidia 6800GT
ATi X1900XTX
Nvidia 8800GTX/9800GTX+ (same card)
Nvidia 8800GT/9800GT (same card)
AMD HD7970GHz (birth of GCN and fine wine which lasted probably for a little too long)
Nvidia GTX970 (sure it came with 3.5GB of usable VRAM but it was still a great card)
Nvidia GTX1070 (this card lasted some people so damn long)
AMD RX480/RX580 (still a decent card for low/med 1080p)
Nvidia GTX1060 6GB (still the most popular GPU probably ever)
Nvidia 1080Ti (still a monster GPU at 1080p/1440p and light 4K gaming)
I will also argue that the current AMD RX6800XT at its current prices (around £500-£600) is a steal and will become a legendary GPU in time.
Rtx3080 has already achieved legendary status, it is the most popular 700usd-class GPU on Steam Hardware Survey, beating all other ~700usd GPU by considerable margins (980Ti, 1080ti, 2080 were nowhere near at their peaks)
Lots of regions dont have discount prices for AMD, so the new discount prices barely affect global adoption rate.
I grabbed Metro exodus on the series X console and was stunned at what the games devs had done to impliment ray tracing and global illuminations in the game, stunning to say the least, and i did not think RT was possible on a £450, but here it is doing ray tracing, i mean the bang for buck on these console at present is out of this world.
The whole "PC bro" culture and us getting the most expensive stuff as soon as we could, has brought this upon us. The PC is now a luxury item, and priced as such.
Rtx3080 has already achieved legendary status, it is the most popular 700usd-class GPU on Steam Hardware Survey, beating all other ~700usd GPU by considerable margins (980Ti, 1080ti, 2080 were nowhere near at their peaks)
Lots of regions dont have discount prices for AMD, so the new discount prices barely affect global adoption rate.
Yea I didn't really consider the global prices in different regions. Very good point.
I would list the following as legendary cards (from what I can remember).
Nvidia 6800GT.
My memory is not great but IIRC the Radeon offerings at the time of the 6800GT crushed it in value. Maybe I'm mixed up but I think I remember buying a Radeon All-in-Wonder X800XT for far less than a 6800GT. In fact I think it was less than half the cost (in Canada from NCIX while they still existed).
Perhaps ironically (no idea if others were having problems), the era I had the AiW X800XT was the era that I had the most stable gaming. I don't remember a single crash. The X800XT will always stick in my memory for the price/performance compared to nGreedia and the stability.
Meanwhile here I am 4000 years later with an RTX 3080 and the drivers are so bugged that I can't delete custom resolutions.
yup, prices of GPUs are all time high. Even after sales are low.
It's the new tactic. Drip feed supply and artificially keep prices high. I don't know how long this will work or what kind of damage it will do long term to PC gaming market, but at least Nvidia's investors are currently happy with this.
It's the new tactic. Drip feed supply and artificially keep prices high. I don't know how long this will work or what kind of damage it will do long term to PC gaming market, but at least Nvidia's investors are currently happy with this.
Raja can make a killing right now if he had planned for a A790 with double the performance of the A770.... Competition is so important now...
Sure it was this box but the card was 100% the doom3 card.