ˇ...Prices have not yet been announced...."
Prices for these are going to be a walletrippers for sure. Lucky us here on G3D, most of us here are not into this chia bullshit so we're not the targeted audience when it comes to these products.
apparently they are buying at this rate and burning a 970pro every couple minutes and yet prices arent exactly skyrocketing
maybe in this scenario we end up winning for once, nand producers get kicked into gear to produce 2tb+ drives like there's no tomorrow and after the damn thing crashes we see HDD price parity or better, SSDs are way cheaper in terms of storage/shipping so their price floor is actually lower than HDDs
From one import company here in Serbia we got e-mail this morning about available SSDs supplies fore preorder. Few SSDs from Samsung and WD ranging from 1TB to 2TB were declared with just 1 month warranty, wtf!? Not sure what models they were, iirc 980 from Samsung and SN"something" form WD, gonna check tommorow that e-mail if I don't forget until then...
What does this actually means:
1). Were they already (ab)used in some chia farm, then refurbed with factory/third party cleared S.M.A.R.T. and returned to stock fore re-sale like new ones?
2). Or maybe local Serbian importer is aware/sure these are going to end up in some chia farm here and likely to die within few months, that's why they want to be sure RMA isn't going to be valid for those bought these?
I don't like this neither option 1). or 2) because us regular SSD users we're going to be scrued.
Don't know how they (import company) is going to get away with this because our law clearly states anything tech related in retails has to be with at least 2 year warranty. Refubrished tech (there are refubrished HDDs here on the market, mostly pulled from old servers and DVR systems) can be with lower warranty but if that's the case it clearly has to be noted product is refubrished and only then warranty period can be lowered. But for those 1TB and 2TB SSDs I was talking about above not a single word about if they were refurbed already. Something suspicious is going on here and at the end of the line only regular SSD users are going to end up screwed...
As far as I can see chia farming is in rise here in Serbia, people are investing lots of cash into "chia optimised" PCs with lots of storage and most of them probably doesn't have a clue how this scammy system works. Few months from now when those people realise what they were throwing money for I'm expecting 2nd hand market is going to be flooded with chia exhausted or completely trashed SSDs with short descriptions inside ads: "...pulled from workin PC, condition unknow, not tested, probably working, without warranty...". Saw a lot of ads for trashed GPUs from mining farms in past year or two with same explanation inside ads, one seller sold literarily hundreds of GPUs that way, probably imported from some foreign country, sad thing is that desperate (and stupid, what else to say) people were buying these previously not reading comments about the seller, all previous buyers were complaining that not a single GPU has been in working condition.
Here is one of these scammy sellers:
https://www.limundo.com/Clan/stepovic011/SpisakAukcija
...and not a single "untested" piece of tech he's selling is in working order, just a few translated comments:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.limundo.com/Clan/stepovic011_strana_7&sandbox=1
And people are still bidding for the junk he's selling, how stupid is that...
edit
Here is the preorder list of SSDs I've mentioned yesterday on the tap of this wall of txt, all these with just 1 month warranty:
SSD M.2 SATA 2TB Samsung 970EVO Plus MZ-V7S2T0BW
SSD M.2 2TB Samsung 980 PRO MZ-V8P2T0BW
SSD M.2 2TB WD Black WDS200T3X0C
Price tag for these... it's just insane, don't even worth mentioning...
From one import company here in Serbia we got e-mail this morning about available SSDs supplies fore preorder. Few SSDs from Samsung and WD ranging from 1TB to 2TB were declared with just 1 month warranty, wtf!? Not sure what models they were, iirc 980 from Damsung and SN"something" form WD, gonna check tommorow that e-mail if I don't forget until then...
So, that means the SSDs are breaking before reaching the write cap? That would indeed leave the manufacturers in a bad position.
LOL he's sending burned cards with broken fans and getting glowing reviews. And buyers are not even lying.
They REALLY ARE SATTISFIED with the junk they bought.
what the...
So, that means the SSDs are breaking before reaching the write cap? That would indeed leave the manufacturers in a bad position.
My guess is that local import company here in Serbia is almost 100% sure these SSDs are going to be bough by chia farmers and just don't give a f#ck, something like: "...if you as a chia farmer want those SSD so desperately just deal with the 1 month warranty or gtfo...". Honestly I don't blame them (import company), but no doubt at the current state of local market these SSDs even with just 1 month warranty are going to sell super fast. Although not sure what's going to happen if some stubborn chia farmer decides to call on his rights provided by our law when some of his SSD dies within few months: "...I've bought it new, so it has to be under warranty at least 2 years, if that's not the case retailer or import company is breakin the law..." ...and he has rights to call local financial inspectors to check what is going on. Not a single retailer or import company wants to deal with these.
Noisiv:
LOL he's sending burned cards with broken fans and getting glowing reviews. And buyers are not even lying.
They REALLY ARE SATTISFIED with the junk they bought.
what the...
Link I've posted above is from auction site, something like local eBay in much smaller scale. Seller is declaring these GPUs as: "...untested, too many of them, haven't got a time to do any tests..." ...but here is the catch: when making ads for these faulty GPUs seller declares them as: Faulty ...so buyer has no right to make a complain after he receives the faulty product and the only option buyer has is to leave possitive review: satisfied ...(but as you already saw besides positive mark buyer can write whatever he feels) or else buyer is breaking the site rules. It's just the game of words in the ad and obviously there is enough "patients" out there who fall on this scam. Scammy seller walks away with "clean hands" and money in his pocket: "...I've declared these as faulty, you can't leave a negative review..." ...and naive buyers can't do nothing. I'm just shocked there is so many buyers out there who don't read other buyers comments on previous items seller has sold to them, people are so naive.
The Golden Rule might apply here. Those with the Gold get to make the Rules.
The laws could be argued to have allowed Chia mining to be defined as a deliberate misuse of the device, and thus the warranty loophole that is generally allowed to manufacturers could kick in. The larger SSD manufacturers could fairly reasonably assume that the vast majority of Chia miners have no desire to appeal to their local governments for aid in a warranty matter.
apparently they are buying at this rate and burning a 970pro every couple minutes and yet prices arent exactly skyrocketing maybe in this scenario we end up winning for once, nand producers get kicked into gear to produce 2tb+ drives like there's no tomorrow and after the damn thing crashes we see HDD price parity or better, SSDs are way cheaper in terms of storage/shipping so their price floor is actually lower than HDDs