Rumor: AMD Radeon RX 6700 will arrive with 12GB of GDDR6 Graphics memory

itpro

2020-11-22 10:53

So, I suppose those are the true console tier gpus? Interesting for casual gaming. I wonder which of those two really performs like XSX/PS5... 🙂

#5857888

Undying

2020-11-22 12:06

XT version have the same power usage as rx580, impressive. January? Nice.

#5857906

Silva

2020-11-22 12:54

I'm afraid these will just replace current 5000 at their prices, but the 6700 looks amazing on paper. If only they'd lunch these at less than 350€, I'd very much do anything for a 6700 at 300€ but I know it won't happen.

#5857911

Kaarme

2020-11-22 13:04

I'm worried about the low stream processor core count, even though I kind of expected it. If it's the same as with 5700 (XT), how much more performance can we expect? Is it mainly from the clocks? But since the power consumption is quite low, I can't imagine the clocks being at 2.5GHz. I guess the reviews will tell the truth. It's not going to match 3060 Ti in RT, I reckon, so the traditional work performance better be higher for the card to be a viable choice! Of course if 3060 Ti ends up costing more than 500 euros and thus being automatically out of the question, 6700 (XT) will look a whole lot better, unless they are also absurdly expensive.

#5857917

pharma

2020-11-22 13:29

Kaarme:

It's not going to match 3060 Ti in RT, I reckon, so the traditional work performance better be higher for the card to be a viable choice! Of course if 3060 Ti ends up costing more than 500 euros and thus being automatically out of the question, 6700 (XT) will look a whole lot better, unless they are also absurdly expensive.

Not sure if these cards were intended to be used with RT. You are correct that core count might be an issue, not just for RT but also when there is a DLSS solution which would share the same resources.

#5857927

TieSKey

2020-11-22 14:21

I'll just drop this here (source: Wikipedia)

Radeon RX 560[g](Baffin)
May 2017
$99 USD  

Radeon RX 570 (Polaris20 XL)
April 18, 2017
$169 USD

Radeon RX 580 (Polaris20 XT)
April 18, 2017
$199 USD (4 GB)
$229 USD (8 GB)

#5857983

mohiuddin

2020-11-22 18:29

^those days gone. Every company is now money grabbing POS

#5857984

vbetts

Moderator

2020-11-22 18:31

TieSKey:

I'll just drop this here (source: Wikipedia)

Radeon RX 560[g](Baffin)
May 2017
$99 USD 

Radeon RX 570 (Polaris20 XL)
April 18, 2017
$169 USD

Radeon RX 580 (Polaris20 XT)
April 18, 2017
$199 USD (4 GB)
$229 USD (8 GB)

These are also GCN based, which AMD made specifically to be cheap. There are still decent alternatives now around these price points in the current market.

#5858009

TieSKey

2020-11-22 19:17

vbetts:

These are also GCN based, which AMD made specifically to be cheap. There are still decent alternatives now around these price points in the current market.

Nvidia had similar prices back then. Also a "cheapo" architecture? Actually, how do u make a "cheap" architecture at all?? or were those chips 1/2 the physical size of a nv3060/rx6700?? How comes the top 2 GPU companies in the world have not made any performance/price improvement in the 100-300 price bracket for the last 3 years, but they did in the 800-1000 one? "Moore's law" is crying in its grave (cuz lets face it, it died 10 years ago).

#5858011

Kool64

2020-11-22 19:19

and I still don't feel so bad getting my 2070s at just a bit under $500 back in June.

#5858017

mohiuddin

2020-11-22 19:40

buhehe:

so uhmm, what would the right price be?

Well there's no definite answer to that. The price of midrange gpus definitely shifted upwards overtime. It can be for many causes . Inflation, COVID-19 etc etc . But also it can be due to companies' syndicated effort to generate more revenue.

#5858026

vbetts

Moderator

2020-11-22 20:43

TieSKey:

Nvidia had similar prices back then. Also a "cheapo" architecture? Actually, how do u make a "cheap" architecture at all?? or were those chips 1/2 the physical size of a nv3060/rx6700?? How comes the top 2 GPU companies in the world have not made any performance/price improvement in the 100-300 price bracket for the last 3 years, but they did in the 800-1000 one? "Moore's law" is crying in its grave (cuz lets face it, it died 10 years ago).

Pascal also like Polaris were not new designs, just built off of previous designs. They also both had far less transistors, and did not need a portion of the build just to be taken by the cooling solution.

#5858083

thesebastian

2020-11-23 01:04

If the 6700 or 6700 XT have VRM on the right side and NXZT Kraken G12 support them, then I'll upgrade to this GPU instead of the RX 6800 (or RTX 3070) and not because of the price. Current 2020 GPUs don't seem to support this. My priority is to upgrade my GTX1080 without sacrificing silence. (my current gpu does 19.2 db(A) in full load and I don't want to increase this noise). Second priority is max TDP and price of the card.

#5858093

Agonist

2020-11-23 01:50

Halulam:

So now an 350 - 500 $ cards are for casual gamers and console level graphics ? Sad, really sad.

He is really sad. Not the gpus. But you can still thank nvidia and their idiot fanboys for gpu prices.

#5858102

wavetrex

2020-11-23 03:03

Thank just the fanboys. Nothing is Nvidia's fault, they are a business and they are doing that business accordingly. If they would charge $10000 for a GPU and people would still buy them, then they are doing the business exactly as they should. The fact that so many people have "no life" anymore and they are spending all their time on their computers playing games and such... that's the main problem in society, not the price that Nvidia or AMD charges. Anyone here saw the movie "Ready Player 1" ? That's where we're heading, for sure. CV19 only accelerates the process...

#5858103

DannyD

2020-11-23 03:04

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#5858108

0blivious

2020-11-23 03:28

I grabbed my 5700 XT for $390. I feel like that's the same pricing that would be "reasonable" here again. Not that AMD will sell these for $390. I'd say $450.

#5858131

mohiuddin

2020-11-23 05:47

buhehe:

I think that, unless there's a cartel from AMD and Nvidia, there's nothing inherently wrong with what they're doing. If people are willing to pay more money for their products, they'd be fools not to accept it.

U see, u are talking like a pro businessman. But i comfortably prefer to think like a value concerned customer. 🙂 So, yes, if the price of a product segment which we budget oriented customers are mostly concerned about gets a sizable bump, we will complain.

#5858162

Reddoguk

2020-11-23 08:52

Since there's no actual stock of all these cards then price will always remain high. It's only when they over stock and cards start piling up on shelves that they start having sales and money offs. Don't expect prices to get better any time soon. Some are saying 6 months before even pre-orders will be cleared.

#5858195

rl66

2020-11-23 10:33

Halulam:

So now an 350 - 500 $ cards are for casual gamers and console level graphics ? Sad, really sad.

i remember when i get a GTX 590 at 500 Euro, it was so madly expensive for a top high end GPU... At one point they should think that in rich country, most people gain around 1100 Euro by month, and in some developed country a surgery medic still earn around 600 Euro by month... But those price are global and too high...