Rocket Lake at 5.5 GHz could be Intels answer against the Ryzen 9 5950X
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kakiharaFRS
DX12 can handle more than 4 cores properly so for those games (very few today but they are the future) AMD works great
DX11 cannot handle even 4 cores properly so in that case only clock speed matters
Since consoles just got a new CPU with more cores than previously, single thread performance won't matter for long now it's a dead end
I highly doubt xbox ps5 devs will release games that can only handle 2 cores like we still see on PC
I really want AMD to be better I can't wait to see radeons benchmarks tomorrow the money I didn't spend on a 2080Ti is ready to go into a team red build
squalles
well, nothing can be hotter than 5800x
-Tj-
Well Im pretty sure it will use less power and be cooler then current 10900K.
toyo
"Don't stress test your overclocks, you'll be fine with the BSODs"
XenthorX
Oh yeah, if it was for gaming only i would get a 8 cores but i have large C++ projects to compile and i want the best of both world.
But to be honest if prices of new AMD cpu haven't been back to normal by the time intel release its new product line i'll stay open minded to options.
So far i seriously doubt i'll be able to upgrade my CPU in 2020, i can tolerate going MSRP + 50euros no more than that. (most 5800X/5900X AMD CPUs i find in stores are closer to MSRP + 250euros)
Venix
So .. about 250 watts for the cpu and about 250 watts for the peltier cooler spending 500 watts to match or slightly beat the single core of your competition that will beat you in multicore will be in breath distance from your single core perfomance, meanwhile the competition is at 105 watts .....how is that even remotely competitive ? I would have much prefer em to go 10nm and stay on 5ghz.... Consume the 1/5 of power and offer 90% +++ the perfomance.
Mind you i have no cpu at hand to test or any inside info ....all i am going by is the data from the 10xxx series i hope i am wrong.
tsunami231
Without the holes?? higher GHZ is no longer answer unless you trying to create more heat and wattage, cpu wattage has already went up more then like. My current system pulls about 350 watts full load that not much more then consoles with newer cpu and gpu that isnt happen
They days STP and GHZ dictated performance should be thing of the past, BETTER IPC and Better TDP to Performance should be where thing are going. Show me a 35watt CPU/GPU with power of current highend CPU/GPU it possible but willl probably never happen and I will buy that up
My next system if and when I build it will be at very least 8c/16t and would love to keep the cpu wattage under 100 wattage and gpu under 200 wattage but I dont see it happen which i dont see happening MTP what important now STP should not longer be worry
moo100times
Intel: "Challenge accepted"
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/tkAiCENfeWLkJCY7ZRMrRa-970-80.jpg.webp
Borys
I think they need to lauch this on winter... so the PC can warm the entire house....
Come on man... they really think that 5.5Ghz will be able to take the 5950X?!?!?! Even at 6.0Ghz it cant beat it....
I just cant think WHO wanna buy this toaster... hummm, with sure... the fanboys to play 1080p... LOL!
Intel, the looser´s choice!
Noisiv
Launching Q1 2021 - simultaneously with Zen 3.
Competition is nice 🙂
kapu
Zen 3 is 2020 😀
MegaFalloutFan
If it runs 5.5Ghz stock, it means it will be easy 5.8/5.9 using the new Intel cooler that just came out, Linus made a review and overclocked the 10 core to 5.5 on 4 cores, 5.4 on 6 an the rest 5.3 something like that
This cooler comes in 2 version EK custom loop and AIO, its old tec or whatever its called cold side/hot side, but finally optimized for home usage and powerfull, has monitoring and so on, safe to use
Noisiv
Allegedly!!
many cores = very good for Cinebench players 🙂
Rocket Lake bringing heterogeneous, little+BIG core setup.
HUGE CORES = IPC too stronk
Dragam1337
Basically the biggest reason is that the amd cpus have more frametime variety and spikes than intel, which is apparent when looking at 99th procentile. Meaning the experience is less smooth and more stuttery.
Aside of that, im waiting for the new asus hdmi 2.1 monitors, and will do a cpu upgrade when they launch - meaning next summer... and at that time intel will have the fastest gaming cpus again.
Noisiv
hence a smiley.
Pretty sure AMD said they are waiting for OS development to catch up with little big, in order to have bigger gains.
in other words: possibly yes, but nothing in foreseeable future.
On Intel's side little big is coming with Alder Lake, not with Rocket Lake as I thought.
Intel is calling it "Big-BIGGER". 2021 2H, allegedly...
EspHack
as long as they keep one upping one another I will be very happy, heck let nvidia join in with some ARM desktop monstrosity, microsoft is already all-in with x86-64 emulator ready
beedoo
Ask yourself this question.
If AMD had statistically less 'frame-time spikes' than Intel, would you be claiming Intel was less smooth and more stuttery?
I mean, because they are not identical - then by definition, one has to be less smooth and more stuttery, right?
wavetrex
You mean over 100W (140'ish) just for the cooler.
TECs are insanely inefficient.
DannyD
I'd love to get me a rocket lake as that was my plan all along, getting a mobo with all the right components for gen4 pcie was a priority.
I would have gotten an i9, i was hoping for 10 - 12 core i9, but no intel have decided to take a huge step backwards and now i can see the masses going AMD especially when their next-gen arrives. This gen has convinced us, next-gen we'll all go amd.
Screw intel.
Dragam1337
Obviously.
