Review: Intel Core i9-13900K processor
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GamerNerves
I'm amazed how positive spin some people can take on this CPU - it is a travesty! With such power consumption who would even consider it for gaming over AMD, when it doesn't even win all the time, and for other programs it doesn't win always either nor is that much faster, bur for some individual programs I can see the appeal.
The next screenshot from Hardware Unboxed's video review paints the whole picture:
pegasus1
When it comes to CPU sales, does anybody have any idea what % are sold to gamers and what % to every other user.
If gamers account for a lesser percentage then that will account for AMDs strategy in releasing the X3D variant later.
Its common on a specialist forum for everybody to think that an industry in general revolves around that specialist thing.
I wouldn't be surprised if sales to gamers accounts for a small portion of all CPU's sold globally.
pegasus1
You could say the same for the 7*** series over a 5800X3D based rig.
nizzen
Buy AMD if that makes you happy. Buy Intel if that makes you happy. I don't care what you are buying....
You actual failed..... 13900k is a monster in gaming and are beating 7950x by far in fps per watt....
Look at der8auer's newest youtube video...
I have both 7950x and 13900k for testing, and 7950x is now unplugged. I find no reason to use it when 13900k is around. š
Too bad someone is thinking color and name before knowledge....
Ryu5uzaku
Never said it's not fast. But like I don't see it anything special it's good. But wouldn't necessarily buy it as DDR5 platform over Zen 4 even if it's a bit faster on expense of even higher power consumption and heat then Zen 4.
As a platform I don't see the point if upgrading whole system. But anyway still it's not anything amazing. It's good sure.
SameOldx2
13900k and a 4090 paired together are close to 800 watts under load. And that's just for the gpu and cpu by themselves.
Ryu5uzaku
Interesting from reviews I've read so far perf per watt 13900K is behind.
Tho then again perf per watt 13600 and 5800x3D are easily better. And even 7700x.
Did watch Der8auer video and it didn't change much. For sure in some games like bf2042 and far cry AMD fell behind bad but else 7950x at 90w was at times faster.
All in all I feel it comes down to whatever one wants to get.
If you don't go fiddling much then AMD has upper hand in pert watt for sure and that 5800x3d is a black sheep but it does lose to both in lows.
TLD LARS
They are never going to run full power at the same time, unless you deliberately run CPU rendering in the background and game at the same time.
If you look at the 13600k gaming performance, it is very close to the 13900k, maybe only core speed difference, indicating that half of the 13900k is sleeping when gaming anyway.
nizzen
Farcry is a AMD sponsored title... Pretty funny š
nizzen
Running 13900k "max oc" on water and 4090 with no powerlimit. Using 760w from the wall š
My 5950x and 3090 with no powerlimit is drawing 850w from the wall in Battlefield 1 š
waltc3
Everything else I've read today shows that the 13900K max power draw is at least 100W higher than the max draw of the 7950X! My God...well, the really great thing about the 13900k is that we should never hear anything else detrimental about the 7950X's power draw of 230W (TDP & SP)! I don't see why anyone should be surprised, looking at the inferior CPU manufacturing process Intel has to use at the moment. Didn't surprise me.
I can't agree with HH that this is "somewhat similar" to what we saw with the 7950X--as 100W+ higher is not "similar" at all...;) I just don't see it. Rather, it should serve to put things into perspective for most people, I think.
Ryu5uzaku
It's dumb but funny. I feel like dunia engine and frostbite do not like AMD CPU. My wild guess is latency or just something hardcoded / how it's threaded
TLD LARS
Farcry 6 also runs fairly bad on 13900K, the lows are much worse then 7700x lows in Gamers Nexus test.
So it does not run worse on AMD then Intel, it runs worse on more then 8 core CPUes in general, no matter the brand.
Ryu5uzaku
That is nice. I am guessing it's the 3090 vs 4090 that makes the difference so huge. Since for sure 5950 should be using less. Ofc there are other things like what is the rest of the pc like HDDs and stuff but shouldn't make a huge difference.
Sinattractive
The question is does that much of power really neccesary for gaming?I think thats true waste of money u can spend extra cash on the gpu.
Neo Cyrus
Is this the part where I type in "laughs in 5800X3D"?
Meathelix1
Can you show me where this "crushing" is for Intel over AMD?
I really don't see much crushing going on here. Not like the old days, shit so close that fps in games could just be related to who sponsored the game the most...
You have been a fanboy of Intel for years, every release of AMD or Intel you state Intel is King.
But anyway, if you are upgrading from a 12000 series or 5000 series to a 13000 you be a bit silly, or you just like to waste money on very minor improvements.
It's great to see AMD vs Intel being so close that you don't even need to upgrade from previous gens as the new gen ain't much better. haha.
AMD did not release their 3D cache version because they know it will beat the 13000 series but they have to milk the market as much as they can now same with every tech. We are not seeing huge increases like we once did in the industry.
Intel / AMD / Nvidia are all losing a lot more money now. Its great for us the consumer as we can have our pc parts for longer.
Reddoguk
When i bought my 5800X there was no mention of a future X3D chip.
If i would of had prior knowledge about this gaming monster then i would of never bothered to buy the 5800X in the first place. Now i own both and AMD won out.
I'm good for now so not too bothered about any of the new stuff including 4090 7000 Series and this 13900k. If i was in for a AM5 system this time i'd 100% wait for the X3D chip.
So no wonder why 7000 is not selling that well.
~AngusHades~
So can we use 4 sticks of memory on Intels newest platform at the high speeds yet and have they fixed the bending problems with the socket yet too? Iām just asking questions , as if I had an opportunity to buy new hardware.
pegasus1
People are arguing over figures.
If anybody played a game on both an AMD rig and an Intel rig using the fastest of each, but didnt know what rig was what, they would have to guess.
In real world gaming you cant tell the difference between the two.
