great little card, but let me get this straight: Radeon Nano full unlocked fiji core can overclock to 1070mhz on the core while air cooled and 280w power consumption. Fury X can barely reach 1170 water cooled and 380W power consumption. !!?!?! Am i missing something?

Good card, too pricey. Cannae wait to get my Fury installed.

sadly add 100 to 150 Euro on all those price in here (thank custom and ecological tax).

I just went to a german site where I could buy with rather small postage and get it delivered here 😀 so the prices are from there.

Welp, these prices :/ [spoiler]http://puu.sh/k6tZF/6eff79b1c1.jpg http://puu.sh/k6u4V/8f4719f0b9.jpg[/spoiler]

It's an amazing card, but I don't see the point. The power usage is excellent, performance is very good and due to the price it actually makes the Fury X look like a better deal, but there are already supply problems with the Fury X and this card is going to exacerbate that. It has severely limited market appeal and seems to rely on the 'build it and they will come' ethos, but this isn't the card people need or want, supply is going to face the same problems as the Fury X and it certainly isn't going to help AMD regain market share. While it might look like I'm ragging on you AMD, my comments are borne out of frustration that you as a company don't seem to know what you're trying to achieve. Why go to the effort of producing something this frivolous when the company is in such difficulty? It's like the ship is sinking but the band is still playing. Stop over charging for your products and you'll sell more. That's what people want, stop trying to mimic Nvidia, that's why people loved AMD in the first place. Charging a premium price does not automatically make your product the market leader. Being the perceived underdog is a strength, not a weakness. I'm well out of the loop when it comes to buying all the new hardware and such but I do still have to read the graphics card reviews and what people are saying on the forums, why can't you see the same thing everyone else is seeing? Rant over, going for a lie down; hopefully I'll be dreaming of the good old days when people would buy multiple x800xt's purely on the off-chance they might be unlockable.

Idk, I don't see how they could charge less. For the Nano, maybe -- if they went with a different chip they could have done it. But for the Fury X? The actual size of the card is as big as the 980Ti, it has a water cooling loop and HBM yields/the R&D cost of that alone.. I doubt AMD is making much money on the Fury X to begin with, at least no where near as much as Nvidia makes on the 980Ti. So then what would be the solution? Ditch HBM? If they had gone with GDDR5, the card would be 40w higher and perform slightly worse than it already does. Maybe they could have sold it for $550 at that rate or something -- but they'd still have a card that costs as much as Nvidia's (manufacturing wise) and they'd be selling it for less. I think AMD is doing the best it can with what it has available. HBM is good for it's APU/HSA and it also has the added benefit of allowing creative/unique form factors for GPU's while cutting power a bit. I can't really see them going any other direction aside from somehow building a new architecture quicker. While GCN has aged nicely (mostly because of AMD's efforts with Mantle/Xbox One) it's definitely showing it's age when it comes to performance/power scaling. I mean look at this card, the difference between 175w and 280w is a few hundred mhz. Hopefully Greenland or w/e the codename for the new architecture is called fixes some of these issues, comes on 14nm with HBM2. Nvidia will probably only have 16nm available through TSMC, so they'll be at a slight disadvantage when it comes to density.

man I think you can get two of those little pecker 970's for the same PRICE. ok ok so who is running the show over there at amd again,its that lying bitch lady ain't it. da hell are they thinking it has more things wrong with it for the market they are looking for then you could shake a stick at....damn next titan y $1500 damn I hate that. all the gosh dang bs we heard this pass week oh nv have to do it with software bla bla bla no dvi still no dp 2.2 so on most tv's 30 refresh only? and wth?you can get a 150usd card to be htpc ??????what wait how high was amd when they made fuji? they had some good stuff yo

Costs 799 € here in Finland. Definitely not worth the >2x price compared to mini GTX 970's (Gigabyte) and if you have case where you can put Sapphire Fury Tri-X then that's better buy too (and much cheaper). This is definitely noisier (coil whine issues) and hotter (just little bit) than what I'd like.

Like many other gurus said before me, the Nano is a great card with a terrible price... And for those worried about Nano´s poor sales, don´t be. The Nano isn´t made to sell a lot, it´s simply a halo product to show what AMD can deliver in terms of performance within a very small size and to highlight the power of HBM, basically it´s a marketing product, a very good one if you ask me. Great review as always Hilbert!

No wonder AMD spun off its gpu division. May be releasing this first iteration of the Nano card is a feeler to see how the market responds. Price is almost as much as the GTX 980 Ti but does not perform close to it whatsoever.

All in all, I think the Nano is the first "right" card type from AMD in a long time in my opinion

Agreed. Wholeheartedly! It's really great that AMD is addressing whole 0.005% of the market :3eyes: Like eXtreme™ gamers who are squatting in 2x2m rooms and don't have enough space for ATX case. Anyone out there in the real world who's into cool and quiet gaming and has to have AMD/HBM, you are far better off getting Fury X and setting -50% Power Limit

Your ignoring OEM's. Face it, computers are getting smaller and smaller. The old fashioned large ATX desktop monsters are going the way of the dodo. Fury series seems to have been an attempt to answer this change, but the engineering/technical part wasn't able to get it right this generation.

And again I agree with you Its just that until we get there, they should be addressing hugely prevalent present form factors. its like with HBM... AMD is taking the trip into future, while leaving the house on fire

^but it does showcase some nifty features,as a prelude to what they can do the card is fine. as a (w)hole not so much

Not bad numbers for a mITX card. But the price is not right. I can get a standard Fury or a 980 for a cheaper price. Looks like I am holding on to my R9 290 for a good while to come. Plus in some cases it equals a 980 or just surpasses it depending on the game.

It;s a nice product, but no HDMI 2.0 kind of shoots itself in the foot imo. I'm curious what a pair of these on water cooling could do, but not at the current price. So the only "sensible" spot for Nano at $650 (or more) is an HTPC, but without HDMI 2.0 or TVs with display Port it's pointless. 🙁

Nice performance for it's size but that price! It'd be one thing if this were king of the performance hill. Those cards are always stupidly priced. This is merely king of the performance/size category, a niche that didn't even exist and probably won't matter much. For most of the gaming community, why wouldn't someone get a 390X or gtx980 for alot less money and similar (or relatively close) performance? They clearly weren't going for a bang for your buck pricing scheme here.

What a waste of a full core they could esily have used a cut down version and achieved the same results while being cheaper.

I wish AMD had bloated Tonga and made a new GCN1.2 GPU somewhere between 970 and 980, while sticking to DDR5. Based on the comments here, HBM is so difficult to manufacture at the moment AMD can't use it for anything but really expensive products, so they can't cut Fiji to fill lower segments of the market. What's there currently, apart from the 380, is quite uninspiring indeed. 380, however, is not powerful enough for lots of people. It feels like Nvidia succeeded much better with their strategy for this extra generation of 28nm, despite the fact they didn't introduce anything fancy like AMD did with HBM.

I wish AMD had bloated Tonga and made a new GCN1.2 GPU somewhere between 970 and 980, while sticking to DDR5.

450-500mm^2 Along with full Tonga. And then fully focus on 960(Ti*) - 970 - 980 segment. I wonder if 384bit MC would be enough or they would have to use 512bit. This would have worked if they could have actually improved GCN

@ Clever man Free tips: Use that slider on the left screenie. Pull it down for some free money

I don't see a problem with the price. Small form factor new memory tech so its going to cost more that's a given. Card is amazing I would love to own one.

Really? :stewpid: It costs the same as the fury x with a much better cooler and instead its using a 5 dollar cooler. I bet those water coolers cost them 50$ each. This card should be priced considerably lower considering its performance/noise/cooling. http://i.imgur.com/rZfbZ8s.png You can get a 980ti quite a bit cheaper, or a inno3d with water for 560~ on that site. AMD is crazy with that pricing