Radeon Series RX 6800 (XT) and 6900 XT preview & analysis

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WhiteLightning:

I wonder just how many will go for a 6900XT right now. For me , it is way out of my league and what i am willing to pay for a video card.
Certainly not me. I would like my next gpu to have 16GB of ram though since i plan to buy a 3k ultra wide monitor. The 6800x looks interesting. I usually don't want to spend more than 500$ USD but i might make a exception this time if the performance is around 10% better than the 3070.
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How nVidia made the 6900XT 999 excl VAT look cheap compared the 1549 3090 or the 2080Ti before that. And sheep gobble up this new price trend as 'fair value'. Only took two years, lol.
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I actually got my 3080 and I am sooo happy about it 😀 I only hope that this release brings a price war to you guys 😀
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WhiteLightning:

The hype before was , that with performance it blows Nvidia away. I have not seen that. It closely matched them. Sure price is cheaper , but i dont mean that argument right now.
It also might be significantly worse in RT workloads.
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metagamer:

DLSS 2.0 is just way too good.
In 10 games ? 20 ? how many have it ? RT is indeed the future, but DLSS... at best "meh". Currently I personally don't play ANY of the games that use DLSS.
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Very impressive. I hope the availability is there. When we getting your highly valued verdict on performance HH? 🙂
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This is awesome and I think those 6900xt clocks are conservative as well, based on early reports of 6800 AIB models.
BReal85:

Yes, absolutely true. Nevermind, 16GB for a gaming card for 4K is absolutely enough. That 24GB is just too much.
3090 is partly priced around that 24gb because Nvidia knows that customers buy these for AI / ML / data science. For some workflows and ML models, memory size is major a limiting factor. By sticking 24gb on that card, Nvidia now has to keep the 3090 priced higher to keep sales of it from eating too far into the professional market / Quadros.
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Prices are higher than I was expecting but at least they're better than Nvidia's MSRP. Since all I currently care about is 3070-level performance, I want to see more about the 6700 and 6600. As for RT, I'm not interested in paying a higher premium (for either brand) to get that. The visual improvement isn't worth the performance penalty today. Maybe in a few years from, RT won't have such a hefty performance penalty and will be worth the extra cost. Since I use Linux, it's not like I'm going to have access to such things any time soon anyway, so I'll just wait it out.
WhiteLightning:

The hype before was , that with performance it blows Nvidia away. I have not seen that. It closely matched them. Sure price is cheaper , but i dont mean that argument right now.
I don't know anyone who hyped it up that much and had any semblance of credibility. All I've been hearing was doubts that AMD even had anything to defeat the 3080.
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asturur:

I think prices are fine. If those are high, Nvidia are higher? We still need to see what the 6700XT will be priced. For now you have a 570 option that is better than the 500 option of the 3070, by a good margin ( in theory ). If the 6700XT is priced at 440 at is like the 3070, is a win/win
More than likely 500$. The 6800x is 75$ cheaper than the 6800xt. 6700xt will likely be 75$ cheaper than the 6800x. Will be interesting to see if they make a 6700x with 12GB at close to 425$ would be very good.
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BReal85:

For $50 less, you get same performance, less power consumption and +6GB VRAM. VRAM can be a winning factor in the upcoming years, as both cards target 4K, and Doom Eternal already uses 9 GB on Nightmare settings. How many games use RT? And even RTX 3000 fails to deliver in 4K RT. If you don't care about RT performance, that is a no brainer.
Well, if you don't care about RT, you'd probably better go with the 6800 non XT. As I said, independent reviews will tell us more. Plus, AMD GPU prices tend to go down a little bit, unlike nVidia. In the end, AMD will probably offer much better value (that's why I've only bought AMD these last 20 years 😀)
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Why they should give you free new tech? Amd is not charity. They need to make some money to pay their thousands of employees. Nvidia is worth their price but amd is so expensive yes? We should stop being delusional customers. Reality needs reasons&facts.
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Denial:

It also might be significantly worse in RT workloads.
I must say I am a bit confused with all these Raytracing things. Doesnt have Nvidia have a tech of their own , so they won't use directx12 for that ?
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WhiteLightning:

I must say I am a bit confused with all these Raytracing things. Doesnt have Nvidia have a tech of their own , so they won't use directx12 for that ?
All the games right now are probably not optimized for non RTX cards since it's not relevant for now. With the next gen console supporting ray tracing along with RDNA 2 i assume games released next year will optimize for new AMD cards so i think the real ray tracing test for those cards will be more next year than with the games currently on the market.
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What's proprietary is the RT core hardware solution to speed up acceleration structure traversal and generation for ray tracing. From what i've seen from AMD yet it's all software based, done in compute shaders.
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Everything looks great and I'm so happy that AMD finally caught up with nVidia but the pricing is a bit off, especially 6900XT which is a few percent faster than 6800XT but costs a whopping $300 more. 6800XT seems to offer best value for the money considering its on par with 3080 but offers more VRAM.
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XenthorX:

What's proprietary is the RT core hardware solution to speed up acceleration structure traversal and generation for ray tracing. From what i've seen from AMD yet it's all software based, done in compute shaders.
Yeah but ray tracing games are probably using the shaders less no? We will see but i'M not sure the current games on the market will be a good indication of the performance moving forward since those games have not been tested or optimized for this.
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[youtube=8KAnebwCAaA] Another video out with extra information.
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RTX 3070 doesnt look soo good anymore with that shy 8 gigs of ram . It was worth ot wait .
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Vega FE 999$ to 6900XT 999$ Vega 64 LC to 6800XT Vega 64 to 6800 Prices are almost the same as ever. We lost gpu class from vega 56 and below(Polaris).
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Rick_2077:

Crazy performace/price.
+smart access memory. So those slide are more marketing.