Then why "talk about something that was never the case for more than ~1y on any console before? as long as tech keeps improving, even the pc components will not be ahead for more than 1-2y until something newer gets released.

angelgraves13:

PCI-Express 5.0 will change the game for PCs in 2021. NVme for PCI-E 5.0 will be what...16GB/s? Yeah...PS5 won't be ahead for long.

PCI-Express 5.0 won't do squat for your general purpose gaming PCs, just the same as PCI-Express 4.0 hasn't yet. Will GPUs at some point utilize 4.0 speeds beneficially? Hopefully, but they aren't now, and they likely won't soon. NVME storage? M.2 PCI-Express 3.0 drives at their top speeds barely have an impact compared to an SSD on SATA III. There is an impact, don't get me wrong, but your typical game PC/general PC won't notice the difference between a top of the line SATA III drive and a PCI-Express 3.0 M.2 drive, let alone a top of the line PCI-Express 4.0 m.2 drive, let alone a PCI-Express 5.0 M.2 drive. There's more important things that can be done with the controllers then pure grunt speed.

k3wld00d1207:

PS5 = 36CU XSX = 52CU. PS5 gpu clock at 2.3ghz is misleading. No gpu will run at 2.3ghz core clock not even on water.

5700XT boosts to 2.1Ghz-2.2Ghz even with the reference cooler at 42% fan speed (just undervolt at stock settings). Also both consoles are made on TSMC "7nm enhanced" (N7P) not 7nm (N7) like the current Navi, ofc don't confuse it with N7+. N7P process gives 7% higher clock speeds at same power, or 10% less power consumption at same clocks. So if AMD made today the 5700XT on N7P it would be boosting to 2250-2340. In addition these are RDNA2 GPUs so expect differences on how high they can go. Also N7P on the 8 Zen 2 cores means they will be sipping power so not much heat will be generated by the APU. https://www.anandtech.com/show/14687/tsmc-announces-performanceenhanced-7nm-5nm-process-technologies

PlayStation 5 controller images. https://i.imgur.com/j4oOkDo.jpg https://i.imgur.com/0hxLgbI.png https://www.jp.playstation.com/blog/detail/9498/20200408-ps5.html?emcid=so-co-240264 @Hilbert Hagedoorn *edit* English version. https://blog.us.playstation.com/2020/04/07/introducing-dualsense-the-new-wireless-game-controller-for-playstation-5/