PlayStation 5 Tech Details - 8x ZEN2 cores, RDNA2 with 2304 shaders (16GB GDDR6) + 825 GB (5.5 GB/s) M.2 SSD

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Do i need a gaming PC?:(:( Looking at the above... Price - wise
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Well they seemed to have confirmed no backwards compatibility with ps1/2/3 unless this is added later right now does not exist which makes me sad... Sadly the SSD isn't 1TB, 828gb is odd, wondering if that is including the normal compression, or without cause otherwise it will be close to 750gb useable. hoping they let us have an internal increase like they often do, like a 1.6TB ssd. Though it was semi mentioned that in theory game sizes could be smaller due to compression and not duplicating files. So that could be intersting. Unsure about the audio, not sure how they can make sure everyone gets good audio, so have to see how they do this. Powerwise got worried about the 36 CUs but cause they are clocked so high it is still going to be fairly beefy system, they sadly just left some questions open. including what it looks like, and what the cooling solution is. Or even how backwards compat is going to work and if there will be improvements to run older games on the ps5. Edit: Also is this pure 8 cores, or 16 cores with 8/16 smt cause that was never confirmed either
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Consoles have always been great 'deals for the buck' if they're speaking of floats operations, which they obviously most likely are, with 10.3 TFLOPS they would end up on par with RTX2080. I have no idea how much they will sell it for, but if for <600$ you can get a full gaming system including that much performance, it's a no brainer, there's only ultra high end PC which will still makes sense - or just games that require a mouse and keyboard? 😕
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Ricepudding:

Well they seemed to have confirmed no backwards compatibility with ps1/2/3 unless this is added later right now does not exist which makes me sad... Sadly the SSD isn't 1TB, 828gb is odd, wondering if that is including the normal compression, or without cause otherwise it will be close to 750gb useable. hoping they let us have an internal increase like they often do, like a 1.6TB ssd. Though it was semi mentioned that in theory game sizes could be smaller due to compression and not duplicating files. So that could be intersting. Unsure about the audio, not sure how they can make sure everyone gets good audio, so have to see how they do this. Powerwise got worried about the 36 CUs but cause they are clocked so high it is still going to be fairly beefy system, they sadly just left some questions open. including what it looks like, and what the cooling solution is. Or even how backwards compat is going to work and if there will be improvements to run older games on the ps5. Edit: Also is this pure 8 cores, or 16 cores with 8/16 smt cause that was never confirmed either
Maybe it's 1TB but a part of it is reserved for the system?
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MonstroMart:

Maybe it's 1TB but a part of it is reserved for the system?
It's possible? was never made clear, thogh 130gb reserved for system seems like quite a bit to be honest. guess we will have to see once it comes out or if they release further information later down the line. Either way I think 1tb might be a good minimum, since games are only getting larger. ( have to see if this compression Kraken stops games getting bigger and instead smaller mind you)
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Ricepudding:

Well they seemed to have confirmed no backwards compatibility with ps1/2/3 unless this is added later right now does not exist which makes me sad... Sadly the SSD isn't 1TB, 828gb is odd, wondering if that is including the normal compression, or without cause otherwise it will be close to 750gb useable. hoping they let us have an internal increase like they often do, like a 1.6TB ssd. Though it was semi mentioned that in theory game sizes could be smaller due to compression and not duplicating files. So that could be intersting. Unsure about the audio, not sure how they can make sure everyone gets good audio, so have to see how they do this. Powerwise got worried about the 36 CUs but cause they are clocked so high it is still going to be fairly beefy system, they sadly just left some questions open. including what it looks like, and what the cooling solution is. Or even how backwards compat is going to work and if there will be improvements to run older games on the ps5. Edit: Also is this pure 8 cores, or 16 cores with 8/16 smt cause that was never confirmed either
Game sizes should actually come down because games had a lot of duplication going on simply because of they way the old mechanical drives heads worked to reach and read drive data, but ssd drives remove the need for such duplication.
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how many have NOT been happy with PS/2/3/4? and it will leave a "noticeable" hole in xmas gift funds\ for most, but if im willing to spend almost half a grand, i wont change my mind just because it has x "less" than they expected, or because the xb has "more"... you have the funds or not, you play the games (coming out) or not, same way it was with the last 4. backwards compatibility is fine for ppl that have a broken unit, (but like many others i always sold my games with the console), but only as long as its not "limiting" anything for the newer games. not willing to spend half a grand on a console only to play "blocky 6 bit games" on a 4K tv, an emulator can do that just fine.
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Caesar:

Do i need a gaming PC?:(:( Looking at the above... Price - wise
We shall see. SONY would be trying to keep it at $400 range.
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XenthorX:

Consoles have always been great 'deals for the buck' if they're speaking of floats operations, which they obviously most likely are, with 10.3 TFLOPS they would end up on par with RTX2080. I have no idea how much they will sell it for, but if for <600$ you can get a full gaming system including that much performance, it's a no brainer, there's only ultra high end PC which will still makes sense - or just games that require a mouse and keyboard? 😕
For a huge community that most people here have not much clue about is sim racers. And consoles are garbage for that. Consoles still have piss poor mod support, no emulator support etc. Id rather play on a 1080p budget rig then the ps5 or new Xbox. Just having reshade alone is worth more. And the insane amount of games you can go all the way back and play. Now games are gonna look good for sure on the new consoles, but after year of them out, PC game variants are still gonna be above it.
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XP-200:

Game sizes should actually come down because games had a lot of duplication going on simply because of they way the old mechanical drives heads worked to reach and read drive data, but ssd drives remove the need for such duplication.
This is true, but we will have to see if games dont just increase anyway due to higher texture sizes or bigger worlds. In a lovely world i'd like to think we would see games that are a lot smaller but i dont know if this is the case. Also wonder why on PC we dont get an SSD vs HDD option where we could install a smaller game cause its going on an SSD
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This sounds great! For me because I expect game developers to better cater towards highly threaded CPUs. Since I am sitting on a 3800x with 16GB of ram I hope a new GPU will land me in a sweet spot later down the line. 🙂
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Ricepudding:

This is true, but we will have to see if games dont just increase anyway due to higher texture sizes or bigger worlds. In a lovely world i'd like to think we would see games that are a lot smaller but i dont know if this is the case. Also wonder why on PC we dont get an SSD vs HDD option where we could install a smaller game cause its going on an SSD
Game size will increase, 1TB is not enough anymore, if systems come with anything less then 2 TB I will be disapointed, then again it probably gona depend on how much more the propriety drivers are gona cost. Food for thought Nioh on PS4 with all content is like 55 gb, Nioh on PC with all addons is like 75 gb. so if game have alot redundant data why is so much bigger on PC side, unless nioh actual had higher quality texture then console did which it does not both are using same textures.
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This audio thing is questionable imho , what if you are with 4 people in a room, each with different ears. lol
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Loophole35:

Because of how they choose to use 12 VNAND chips the options for more would have required them to double again to 1.6TB which would have increased cost. This is why they went with this odd config. However can someone explain where they came up with 825GB? 12x64GB is 768GB. They also said there is a M.2 expansion avalible to augment the SSD that will basicaly have a "whitelist" of usable drives. This is better that the proprietary approach M$ is deploying.
wait is that why they I read something about 825gb? that is less space then my ps4 has it less space then ps3 has it less space then my pc has, they can be serious about launching it with 825gb I have like 10 of my games installed and I have 800 gbs + installed on it s 1 TB drive
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About what was expected. I'm still in the wait and see camp, and still expect to use my PC as my primary platform. Hopefully they have some solid exclusives lined up for this thing, as that was my reason for buying a PS4.
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tsunami231:

wait is that why they I read something about 825gb? that is less space then my ps4 has it less space then ps3 has it less space then my pc has, they can be serious about launching it with 825gb
I think that is why it is gonna be cheaper then the xbox. you will still be able to add a second drive with the same speed though, so that is at least something. USB speeds or Sata would have been dramatic.
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This is going to be an expensive piece of equipment, and unfortunately for the wrong reasons. Wonder if consoles are going to fall into the problem as PC's suffer, where developers like Ubisoft shrug their shoulders and say, 'we don't need to optimize our games,' and instead of citing, 'PC gamers can just build faster PC's', they're essentially going to use the buffed specs as an excuse not to optimize again. Graphic fidelity might improve, but it's still only going to chug along at 20-50 FPS.
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WhiteLightning:

I think that is why it is gonna be cheaper then the xbox. you will still be able to add a second drive with the same speed though, so that is at least something. USB speeds or Sata would have been dramatic.
I know but I prefer NOT to have to do that, I dont want to spend 100+ $ of 1 TB drive or 1.6 TB or what weird size is obviously happen cause of how there configured, nor do i want be swapping out expansion drives cause they dont have "propriety" drive of adequate size and reasonably priced currently a 2TB SSD driver costs about 200$ which probably a lil less then half the price of what the console will be, if it proprietary can you image how a 2tb would cost?
tunaphish6:

This is going to be an expensive piece of equipment, and unfortunately for the wrong reasons. Wonder if consoles are going to fall into the problem as PC's suffer, where developers like Ubisoft shrug their shoulders and say, 'we don't need to optimize our games,' and instead of citing, 'PC gamers can just build faster PC's', they're essentially going to use the buffed specs as an excuse not to optimize again. Graphic fidelity might improve, but it's still only going to chug along at 20-50 FPS.
That been there excuse for decades for pc ports why would that change, UBIsoft cant and release game in Playable states half the time they have dayone patches the size of the game to fix what was fixed before it was launched.
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tsunami231:

Game size will increase, 1TB is not enough anymore, if systems come with anything less then 2 TB I will be disapointed, then again it probably gona depend on how much more the propriety drivers are gona cost. Food for thought Nioh on PS4 with all content is like 55 gb, Nioh on PC with all addons is like 75 gb. so if game have alot redundant data why is so much bigger on PC side, unless nioh actual had higher quality texture then console did which it does not both are using same textures.
Well the easy answer to the question why PC is bigger, is cause its not made with SSD's in mind its made with HDD still, also higher quality textures maybe less compression and all that. This is why this advancement is odd, in theory we could see smaller games... or least my hope for PC the option to install SSD data where we dont have files duplicated. Though think that depends on the game how much of an issue that makes
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Why do I feel that they made this presentation right after XBOX released their specs? Seems soo basic xd I'm happy for the CPU, but really dissapointed in the GPU. Consoles are more GPU bottlenecked, and compared to XBOX, they raised CPU which is pretty useless, and REALLY lowered the GPU. 36 vs 52? Damn. Even if PS had a good reputation, I would give my money 99% to xbox. Plus, no backwards compatibility. About storage. WTF guys, 825 is fcking enough lol. If you want more you can expand. What you expect from like 400 dollar? THATS ALONE AN 1TB NVME SSD