Our findings: 12VHPWR power connectors issues likely due to bending to close to the connector (updated)
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Stairmand
I disagree, this is only after a week of use. You have to factor in where will we be in a years time? What if someones house burns down and kills someone?
I just worked on a Lian Li 011 case ( a relatively large case) and the 4090 connector is squashed quite tight against the glass. This is a common configuration, so a solution should be found.
It's certainly not a problem that should be ignored.
brogadget
We don´t know real figures yet, how many cards sold?, how many affected? If only one €2000.- card out of a billion is affected, thanks to the media, the ultimate damage to Nvidia´s image is already done. That is what happens, if you glue a new chip onto an old pcb, or getting too greedy. If no stop and getting more and more around, I fear for my Nvidia shares. Future Axxxx pro cards have "very reliable and proofed 12VHPWR con." as well?
schmidtbag
Well, the stock configuration of the 4090 doesn't really draw enough power to push the limits. Though despite that, I agree it's still too high.
Honestly, that's a better approach. Having a pair of chunky cables should not only work much more reliably, but it looks better. Nvidia was expecting standards to change - why stop at the connector? Do the wires too.
Venix
the problem also lies with the position of this connector ...how many can put on their side pannel and not bent the cable so close to the connector in here ? i know it will be impossible for me .... That said to be fair i am not buying an rtx 4090 my self , it is just puzzling me that they went ahead and made a gpu connector that you can not bent ..... almost every single gpu last 5 years + they have their connectors on the side and due to people's pc cases you HAVE to bent it ^^ seems like a big oversight to me
Reardan
guys listen its 3 houses out of billions seriously guys stop being so hard on nvidia they're only responsible for like 3 or 4 houses and some kids dying please i need you to all be fair because theres no way a connector couldve been designed that wouldnt melt how could they know guys please
This is 100% right, the connector was designed by people who have no concept of how people use or build a computer. It doesn't matter if its "right" or "wrong" to do it, when you build a product like this, you need to engineer it for how people are going to use it and they've clearly failed
Serotonin
I think the problem is more that this is a potential issue for any owner of the card. Not how many actually caught fire. But that any of them can catch fire. Would you feel comfortable leaving your pc running 24/7 unattended knowing this information? No one wants to pay already ridiculous prices imo for a card that can potentially be a bigger issue to the rest of the hardware if not more.
Serotonin
Because I haven't been following hardware as much as I'd like to as of late....the 4080...will that have the same new connector?
HybOj
Lol I remember recent Jayz2cents video, where he said 40xx series got it wrong with the connector going straight from the card, while in the past, it went in a degree. nVidia replied to him its all good. Now we see its not good. Ppl dont have half a meter wide cases. Surprise. They need to bend that cable
HybOj
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Glottiz
We'll have to wait and see if this a real issue or just weekly news cycle nothingburger. When a new highly anticipated product launches internet makes it seem like every unit sold is defective and will die any moment (happens every time with new console launches, new phones, new anything in tech). Internet loves to hate, so every bad story like this gets amplified 1000 times. But 1-2 months passes and suddenly all problems magically go away 🙂
Silva
There was nothing wrong with 6 and 8 pin connectors.
What is wrong is Ngreedia wanting to use more than two (actually 4!!!) 8 pin power connectors on a single card.
HybOj
IMHO only viable solution is to sell a 90 degrees pre-bend cable.
HybOj
Actually, problem is IMHO in the fact, EVERYBODY needs to bend the cable for it to fit in any type of case. The bend causes the pins to move slightly, reducing the contact area. Smaller contact area - more heat at that spot -> fire hazard.
Nvidia effed it up. They sell u a card and cable and tell you - do not bend. But everybody needs to bend it, because the card it tall and the cable goes STRAIGHT from the card now - no case is wide enough to house that setup without a bend cable. They are just super retarded. In the past, this connector went in a 45 degrees from the 30xx card (which was not so tall as well) - so it was much less of an issue. Not its 90 degress straight from the card, which is now also taller. Thats just incredible effup.
Only way to solve it is to provide ppl with the 90 degrees pre-bend cable IMO
umeng2002
You can't sell a solution to a problem that doesn't exist...
HybOj
...to a problem they claim is not there... you are right... well it will be funny to see how they deal with it... if they deal with it at all.
AMD will use same connector, they maybe can deal with it and sell pre-bend cable. Who knows. Not my issue, I have 2nd hand 3080 bought in a moment, everybody was hyped with 40xx comming plus ETH mining halt. It costed me less, than 2nd hand gtx 970 used to cost me like almost a decade ago 🙂
fry178
lol, ppl have 1.5-2k to spend on a gpu, but no 200 for a new psu/case.
Silva
Obviously if you make the 4090 bigger than the already huge 3090 and put the connector on the hardest spot possible to plug into: shit gonna happen. Unless mounted vertical obviously you can't fit the connector.
Meanwhile my RX580 has a 6+2 pcie cable bent 90º to the side for 3 years, still no smoke...
umeng2002
If you can spend $2000 on a GPU, you can spend $30 on a right angle adapter... Like if you can buy a Porsche, you can afford a $10,000 brake job.
umeng2002
I would image this will happen with all of those connectors, not just nVidia branded adapters. The pins are so much smaller, I think the machines they use to make the female ends simply don't bend the metal enough to make a tight fit.
mgilbert
I don't buy from NGreedia due to the company's lack of ethics, but under no circumstance would I want any device in my PC that required the use of such an obviously finicky connector - especially one carrying that much current!
