Nvidia Is Defending Its Hopper GPU Trademark Against Dish Network

Astyanax

2022-01-29 03:05

tunejunky:

it is Nvidia's lack of due diligence that has created this problem. as a matter of fact i personally know several well-placed Nvidia employees that have Dish Network (and "the Hopper") so this should never have come up.

Theres no trademark collision here, nobody is going to confuse the hopper architecture with anything from dish network., except maybe the morons at dish network.

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rl66

2022-01-29 18:02

Hilbert Hagedoorn:

Nvidia is embroiled in a trademark dispute with Dish Network about its next-generation Hopper GPUs. They argue that Nvidia's 2019 trademark application for 'Nvidia Hopper' infringes on their own '... Nvidia Is Defending Its Hopper GPU Trademark Against Dish Network

There is enough scientist's name to change Hopper into other one that doesn't bother anyone...

The Goose:

this is like comparing the Mini Cooper to the Mini skirt.... totaly different products.

But both are sexy 🙂 (exept if you talk about the BMW version of the Mini Cooper...)

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rl66

2022-01-29 18:06

Astyanax:

Theres no trademark collision here, nobody is going to confuse the hopper architecture with anything from dish network., except maybe the morons at dish network.

Do you think that is all about "confusion" or more about "easy money and talk about my company" ?

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cucaulay malkin

2022-01-29 18:09

what if I put two satelite dishes in sli ? can I see home alone in 8K ?

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rl66

2022-01-29 23:50

cucaulay malkin:

what if I put two satelite dishes in sli ? can I see home alone in 8K ?

It depend if the space used for satelite have paid the fee to use SLI to NVidia, and also if the drivers of the dishes can use SLI. If not you will see an drama in suomi subtitled in tibetan in 360p...

#5988112

umeng2002

2022-01-30 00:10

Should be renamed to Mortgage Payment Hopper.

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Astyanax

2022-01-30 03:33

rl66:

Do you think that is all about "confusion" or more about "easy money and talk about my company" ?

we're thinking alike.

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tunejunky

2022-01-30 16:28

Astyanax:

Theres no trademark collision here, nobody is going to confuse the hopper architecture with anything from dish network., except maybe the morons at dish network.

not true. and not so fast. apparently you are blessed with the lack of knowing lawyers. as an exercise go and try to open anything in the food business as "McDonald's" even if your name is McDonald. and even more stupidly try to sell a drink with the word "Coca" in it. the trademark is an American invention and has over a hundred years of cases with precedence, no matter how silly it seems from the outside. the fact here is both companies are in Consumer Electronics and their Venn diagrams overlap heavily. which is precisely why i said Nvidia failed Due Diligence (which they did). if it wasn't Dish Network but farm equipment, "Hopper" would be free for Nvidia to use. but as they are both in Consumer Electronics Nvidia will end up paying Dish Network or using Grace Hopper's full name (which is a different kettle of fish with her estate).

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tunejunky

2022-01-30 16:32

Throwaway:

Nvidia haters never stop to amaze me. How Nvidia's lack of due diligence has created this problem? Why Dish Network didn't sue Clarks? They are selling shoes named Hopper Go. Why Dish Network didn't sue Starwheels? They are selling electric scooter named Hopper Plus. Why Dish Network didn't sue Hopper.com? Their logo is very similar to Dish Network Hopper logo. I wonder what you say if Nvidia sue Ampere Computing?

read my response to Astanax, and i'm in NO WAY an Nvidia hater. i own their stock and run one of their gpu's.

#5988230

tunejunky

2022-01-30 16:43

schmidtbag:

Maybe if Dish had a better product for a better price, they wouldn't have to worry about such a thing. Should Nvidia be sued for every other name they used? Because there sure a lot of other products that share the same name. (the answer to that question is obviously "no")

Dish has an excellent product for the lowest price. period furthermore, Dish Network has a quantum level higher user base than Nvidia and far greater name recognition than Nvidia - which is why they're the damaged party. as i've mentioned elsewhere this is a case of failed Due Diligence. one wag brought up the fact that Ampere should sue Nvidia - but Ampere is a far smaller company happy to get free name publicity. Dish Network has spent millions over a 15 year period marketing the name. and if you cannot see the damage then you need to talk to a few folks in marketing or a few lawyers.

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cucaulay malkin

2022-01-30 17:08

tunejunky:

not true. and not so fast. apparently you are blessed with the lack of knowing lawyers. as an exercise go and try to open anything in the food business as "McDonald's" even if your name is McDonald. and even more stupidly try to sell a drink with the word "Coca" in it. the trademark is an American invention and has over a hundred years of cases with precedence, no matter how silly it seems from the outside. the fact here is both companies are in Consumer Electronics and their Venn diagrams overlap heavily. which is precisely why i said Nvidia failed Due Diligence (which they did). if it wasn't Dish Network but farm equipment, "Hopper" would be free for Nvidia to use. but as they are both in Consumer Electronics Nvidia will end up paying Dish Network or using Grace Hopper's full name (which is a different kettle of fish with her estate).

nvidia hopper isn't a business

#5988234

Astyanax

2022-01-30 17:12

tunejunky:

apparently you are blessed with the lack of knowing lawyers.

There is no trademark collision here. Nvidia Hopper cannot be confused with Dish Networks Hopper, infact Hopper on its own is too generic a term to be allowed to be Trademarked and there is no evidence of Dish Networks going after anyone else for using it (trademarked or otherwise).

#5988236

Mineria

2022-01-30 17:40

Astyanax:

There is no trademark collision here. Nvidia Hopper cannot be confused with Dish Networks Hopper, infact Hopper on its own is too generic a term to be allowed to be Trademarked and there is no evidence of Dish Networks going after anyone else for using it (trademarked or otherwise).

Also pondering how they can have a valid case for Nvidia using a scientists last name as a codename for an upcoming GPU that will be available in retail with a completely different name. Dish should rather be happy with all the search hits they will get from nerds searching for Hopper, oh wait, that already goes to hopper.com. 😛 And I agree, Nvidia Hopper can not be confused with Dish Networks Hopper, same as so many other trademark cases companies drag into court where there really is no problem for most people to identify and separate between A and B. Lawyers really tend to play the idiot card these days, maybe we should sue them for declaring us consumers as stupid. 😀

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Ojref

2022-01-30 18:38

Codenames are internal naming schemes for products and aren't supposed to be trademark terms for products. You can refer to products as anything you want so long as the official names don't use them. I've been through this kind of legal spat before with a couple of my customers being the sued party. They usually get dismissed from court fairly quickly, but I think the problem here is nvidia hubris.

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cucaulay malkin

2022-01-30 18:54

polaris and vega appear in several trademark names,yet no one was stupid enough to sue amd.

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tunejunky

2022-01-31 15:23

tunejunky:

read my response to Astanax

AND

Astyanax:

There is no trademark collision here. Nvidia Hopper cannot be confused with Dish Networks Hopper, infact Hopper on its own is too generic a term to be allowed to be Trademarked and there is no evidence of Dish Networks going after anyone else for using it (trademarked or otherwise).

clearly wrong on its face. AND you are NOT a lawyer or a judge. THERE IS PRECEDENT HERE. Dish Network wouldn't have threatened action otherwise. look, i think this is all stupid but you do not understand marketing. there is an obvious impact here. i take it you are NOT from the U.S. or otherwise you would've seen the millions of dollars Dish Network has spent on the name "Hopper". the fact is far more people know of Dish Network than Nvidia and that is exactly why this has caused a kerfuffle.

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cucaulay malkin

2022-01-31 16:35

tunejunky:

AND clearly wrong on its face. AND you are NOT a lawyer or a judge. THERE IS PRECEDENT HERE. Dish Network wouldn't have threatened action otherwise. look, i think this is all stupid but you do not understand marketing. there is an obvious impact here. i take it you are NOT from the U.S. or otherwise you would've seen the millions of dollars Dish Network has spent on the name "Hopper". the fact is far more people know of Dish Network than Nvidia and that is exactly why this has caused a kerfuffle.

Can you write like regular people write ? This is painful to look at.