If those specs are right I'm not sure what's worse between the astonishing specs cuts down from the 5090 (for the 5080), or the extreme conservatism gap of "extra performance" between the 4080 and the 5080. To me it's almost like NVIDIA is telling people "Either buy a 4080, or a 5090". I only hope that those specs for the 5080 are completely off, something doesn't seem right.
If its a 600w max then its not that much different to the 4090, no need to update a PSU that can currently run a maxed out 4090.
Im wondering if the PCB will be same as the 4090, i very much doubt it but it would be nice if 4090 blocks would fit, too much to ask for i suppose.
Could you please elaborate on why you think it is too much to ask for ?
If its a 600w max then its not that much different to the 4090, no need to update a PSU that can currently run a maxed out 4090.
Im wondering if the PCB will be same as the 4090, i very much doubt it but it would be nice if 4090 blocks would fit, too much to ask for i suppose.
Yeah the 4090 also has a 450W TDP and I haven't seen this in maxed out gaming yet. But I did UV a little on my card, I have to admit.
I doubt the PCB will be the same, they will deliberately change it, even if they wouldn't need more power cleaning stuff on the PCB as they do with 600W and probably a 2nd connector on there.
If its a 600w max then its not that much different to the 4090, no need to update a PSU that can currently run a maxed out 4090.
Im wondering if the PCB will be same as the 4090, i very much doubt it but it would be nice if 4090 blocks would fit, too much to ask for i suppose.
Can probably drop 150-200W with nvidia-smi and still be within 5% of it's original performance.
If it turns out to be true, 50"8"0 is the worst joke ever from nVidia.
Never ever in their entire history the 2nd place part is cut down less than 50% than their flagship.
With AMD exiting the high end, the next couple of years will be complete absolute milking from the monopoly company Omni Consumer Products... I'm sorry, from nVidia Corp.
So true.
Nvidia is butchering their 80 cards beyond recognition...
They aren't. Again - 5090 is not a gaming card. To use contemporary nomenclature, it's a workstation-grade AI-accelerator that you can buy retail. Now, if you choose to play games with it, that's up to you.
The 5080 is back to being the top gaming offering. It'll probably perform slightly better than a 4090 and cost quite a bit less. I don't see the downside, other than the lack of progress, but - again, again - that's what happens when there's no competition.
That was the 4090. We're discussing the 5090, which is being released in a vastly different time and place. Marketing is always its own thing, but the reality is the 4090 is mostly used for entry level AI, not for gaming, just like the 3090s were mostly used for mining, but never marketed as such. It isn't copium, it's reality. Until the AI bubble bursts, you'd better get used to it.
Hard to say based on these supposed specs. I think they're designing it to replace the 4090 at a lower pricepoint, so yeah, I wager it's going to be noticeable to everyone but 4090 owners. I'm sure they'll throw in some exclusive DLSS modes that can't be backported to Ada for ~reasons~ that will further increase the performance gap.
Me? ive said it before that a 4090 currently maxs out my most played games at 4k/144hz so i doubt il jump on a 5090 unless Eagle Dynamics significantly update the engine in their DCS flight sim or i go VR.
9800x3d platform for sure as that will benefit DCS over my 5800x3d but il probably stick with the 4090, COH3 and Ready or Not (UE5) are fine right now.
All the games I play are very enjoyable with a 7900X3D, RTX4080 and all the other upgrades I did recently at 1440x3440.
I can hold off, no problem. 4080 has been great for me since it launched.
But if the 5080 gives me 25% or more performance I'll give it a shot, mostly just to have the latest arch as sometimes Nvidia makes that a prerequisite to play around with their newest tech.
Maybe a 5090 even depending on what exactly it offers and how that fits in to what I have atm as I really like my monitor etc setup.
Every time a Porsche 911 is updated, they raise the price %15 and guess what, they still have a waiting list a mile long. People who buy the halo cards of the current and previous generations, will buy the halo card from the next generation.
Didn’t realize there was a keynote. Oh, that’s right, there wasn’t.
That's actually a good point. I am still unsure what the 50 gen does over the 40 gen besides being a hardware TOK maybe. I would have expected them to introduce massive software mirages to sell their new and expensive cards.
Or they might just have limited supply, hope there's less buyers anyway, so they can lure people into even more expensive 60 gen cards down the road, that do not offer anything new either.
Imagine being Nvidia's technical marketing team, and all you have to tailor your offerings to is your own projected / desired sales, rather than anything else... 😀
That's actually a good point. I am still unsure what the 50 gen does over the 40 gen besides being a hardware TOK maybe. I would have expected them to introduce massive software mirages to sell their new and expensive cards.
Any consumer GPUs Nvidia release now are just a byproduct of their data centre ambitions. For all intents and purposes Blackwell is a massive leap in compute, so I wouldn't just call it a "tok". Now how much of that will filter down to the 5080 and the midrange is anyone's guess. The 5090 will definitely be what people affectionately refer to as a "monster" because it has applications far beyond gaming.
Any consumer GPUs Nvidia release now are just a byproduct of their data centre ambitions. For all intents and purposes Blackwell is a massive leap in compute, so I wouldn't just call it a "tok". Now how much of that will filter down to the 5080 and the midrange is anyone's guess. The 5090 will definitely be what people affectionately refer to as a "monster" because it has applications far beyond gaming.
Nothing that you say is wrong, nor new to me. If you happen to read many of my other comments, I too am aware that gaming is by now a byproduct of the datacenter. Not like with crypto, where you could mine with gaming cards.
But as a generational thing, what besides "more power" does the new gen offer? I expected them to offer some form of new software to sweeten the deal if you know what I mean. Something they can present as an integrated package to make people aware that actually, something improves beyond just more transistors or newer hardware.
E.g. like they introduced DLSS, later on FG, something in that regard.
It's literally in the title of their product page, as well as countless other places in the detailed description. The entire page is about how fast this thing is in games.