I know Huang is really full of himself but seriously... CEO edition Titan V for elite researchers? That must be the most pretentious thing he's done. Someone really needs to keep his ego in check. Don't get me wrong - I think these Titan Vs make for a great gift that should go toward great things, but he doesn't need to elevate his significance or pat himself on the back while doing it. They could've just called it "Special Edition" and replace "Elite" with really any positive-describing word that isn't so classist. The signature is fine.

Nvidia should start making some descent drivers again. The used to care about working on performance gains in games and fixing things wrong. Most people dont care and just give them more reason too not care. I hope intel and AMD hurt them real bad right were it hurts in there wallet Than this cocky bastard will shut his mouth and get to work

schmidtbag:

I know Huang is really full of himself but seriously... CEO edition Titan V for elite researchers? That must be the most pretentious thing he's done. Someone really needs to keep his ego in check. Don't get me wrong - I think these Titan Vs make for a great gift that should go toward great things, but he doesn't need to elevate his significance or pat himself on the back while doing it. They could've just called it "Special Edition" and replace "Elite" with really any positive-describing word that isn't so classist. The signature is fine.

It seems you are reading this wrong. Jen said nothing about these people being elite; check any other article and you'll see none of them mention anything about these 'elites'. It's just a word used to fluff this article up. He gave away 20 full GV100 GPUs for free and you are calling him pretentious.. lol Lastly, marketing is fully responsible for naming conventions of products, not Jen

Agent-A01:

Jen said nothing about these people being elite; check any other article and you'll see none of them mention anything about these 'elites'. It's just a word used to fluff this article up.

It doesn't matter if he himself said it; Nvidia as a whole calls them elites: https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2018/06/20/nvidia-ceo-springs-special-titan-v-gpus-on-elite-ai-researchers-cvpr/

He gave away 20 full GV100 GPUs for free and you are calling him pretentious.. lol

Again, the act of giving them isn't pretentious and is an act I approve of. But calling these "CEO editions" by putting his name on it sounds very much like "this is only special because of me". How is that not pretentious? You have to consider the whole picture here, not just this 1 variable. In the big picture, Huang isn't known for being humble. In other words, having a "CEO edition" isn't inherently pretentious, but it is when someone like Huang does it. For example if Krzanich did a CEO edition of the 8086K giveaway, I wouldn't have thought much of it other than being a little odd.

Lastly, marketing is fully responsible for naming conventions of products, not Jen

And I'm sure he's heavily involved in the marketing decisions of Nvidia. Considering his ego, it is pretty safe to assume he would deliberately insert himself in this.

Like it or not Nvidia is No1 right now on the market of graphics and AI computing. Jensen is only doing what he knows better than anyone.. thats all! It is merely only a show for him, just another good performed show and by giving those researchers a nice gift with 32GB of HBM2, "A nice welcome to the green family that is", he's ensuring that everyone in the planet with key role in AI is involved as nvidia has intended to. Don't be fooled by the news... CEO EDITION ohh well we've seen that too...! What's next..??!! 😀

This could be my new card, if there´s a special giveaway during the next christmas contest...

Dj_ALeX:

Like it or not Nvidia is No1 right now on the market of graphics and AI computing. Jensen is only doing what he knows better than anyone.. thats all! It is merely only a show for him, just another good performed show and by giving those researchers a nice gift

I personally don't question Nvidia being #1, I have nothing against the event, and I agree it's a very nice gift. My gripe is nothing more than Jensen elevating his importance too much, and the implications behind using words like "elite". To me, there's a big difference between saying "the most deserving recipients" vs "only the best get to receive". The latter statement is unnecessarily provocative to those who aren't (in the eyes of Huang, since it's his name on the box) elites.

schmidtbag:

I personally don't question Nvidia being #1, I have nothing against the event, and I agree it's a very nice gift. My gripe is nothing more than Jensen elevating his importance too much, and the implications behind using words like "elite". To me, there's a big difference between saying "the most deserving recipients" vs "only the best get to receive". The latter statement is unnecessarily provocative to those who aren't (in the eyes of Huang, since it's his name on the box) elites.

I still don't get your 'elitist' wording. Jen never says elite in the presentation; you are quoting a specific person who wrote a news article

I want two of these to go along with 6 Acer X27's. Can't afford it? Just get a better job or something.

Agent-A01:

I still don't get your 'elitist' wording.

Look up the definition of elite (from Google): "a group or class of people seen as having the greatest power and influence within a society, especially because of their wealth or privilege." By this definition, elitism is a result of classism. It's basically like saying "only these people are worthy" and in my opinion, I don't like that connotation. A more positive approach would've been to describe them as earning these GPUs.

Jen never says elite in the presentation; you are quoting a specific person who wrote a news article

I know that... I don't know why you keep insisting that I said otherwise. In my last reply to you, I gave a link from Nvidia's own blog that uses the same word. Therefore, it is phrasing approved by the company.

schmidtbag:

Look up the definition of elite (from Google): "a group or class of people seen as having the greatest power and influence within a society, especially because of their wealth or privilege." By this definition, elitism is a result of classism. It's basically like saying "only these people are worthy" and in my opinion, I don't like that connotation. A more positive approach would've been to describe them as earning these GPUs. I know that... I don't know why you keep insisting that I said otherwise. In my last reply to you, I gave a link from Nvidia's own blog that uses the same word. Therefore, it is phrasing approved by the company.

I'm well aware what elitist means. But a blog poster is using their own words in reviewing a presentation; do you actually think a CEO has time(or even does, they don't) to proof read through one of many blog posts? Answer is no. So for you to say Jensen is approving of the elite attitude is a bit out there if you ask me. From first hand experience doing IT with a large newspaper/article company for a big city, I can tell you that the CEO does not read through the articles written by employees. Not to mention that anyone who writes any kind of news/article has some form of their own opinions. I'm not saying you're wrong the word elite is the best choice of words but you excluded that it also means 'the best of the best'; someone who has a great amount of skill in something. Elite warriors, elite programmers, etc. None of these people are getting rewarded because they are 'privileged or wealthy'. It's safe to assume some of those guests haven't done much of anything to be considered wealthy or privileged. Lastly, being 'elite' generally is because you earned it. You work hard and earn the right to be an elite anything, it's not a given. You are contexting the word in the wrong way as if NVIDIA is classifying others as peasants or lesser people; I see no negative implications assumed by the word. Your argument can be applied to anyone who receives awards for being good at what they do. Anyways, just saying one guy's word is not another guy's word and beliefs. Nor is anyone getting rewarded for being wealthy or privileged.

Agent-A01:

But a blog poster is using their own words in reviewing a presentation; do you actually think a CEO has time(or even does, they don't) to proof read through one of many blog posts?

You seem to have this weird obsession with connecting the word "elite" to Huang and I don't know why.

So for you to say Jensen is approving of the elite attitude is a bit out there if you ask me.

That's because I never said or implied that.

You work hard and earn the right to be an elite anything, it's not a given.

Not true - many people inherit their wealth and prestige. I mean take India for example - that country is heavily based on a caste system, rather than merit.

Your argument can be applied to anyone who receives awards for being good at what they do.

Which part of the argument specifically? I'm saying that it's fine to reward people who put hard work into it, regardless of their status. For that reason specifically, I think handing out these GPUs to the researchers is a great thing.

Anyways, just saying one guy's word is not another guy's word and beliefs.

I agree.

Nor is anyone getting rewarded for being wealthy or privileged.

Treat the word "elite" literally, and yes, that is actually what's happening, hence me pointing it out.

D3M1G0D:

I think you're making too much out of this word. I don't think Nvidia is guilty of elitism here, they're just using a word to describe the top AI researchers (they could have used the word "leading" or "pioneering" and it would have meant the same).

I'm not trying to make it a big deal, but it keeps being pointed out. I'm actually just more annoyed at Huang's ego, with the word "elite" as a sidebar. Anyway, I'm not saying Nvidia is guilty of elitism, I'm saying it's a poor choice of words.

warlord:

He is not afraid of anything, Nvidia is far far away ahead of both Intel and AMD in GPU technologies as a whole. He is laughing at them. Do any of you here remember his "Laughabee" reference for intel's larrabee failure? Radeon technologies for more than a decade is Nvidia's bitch. Huang is the absolute authority and emperor of AI and Graphics based in GPU architecture and it is unlikely to change in the foreseeable future. This is the reality, numbers talk. Everything else is fanboy-ism and inferiority complex against green empire.

INTEL used to not be afraid of AMD , look were they are now , just saying :P

I find it interesting that this is the first full GV100 Titan product.

The end result is that the Titan V CEO Edition is not just a Titan V with more memory. In fact memory capacity aside, thanks to these changes there will almost certainly be meaningful (though not necessarily large) performance differences between it and the regular Titan V in any kind of memory bandwidth-bound scenario. And from I’ve heard from Titan V users over the past year, bandwidth-bound scenarios are more common than one might think, as the regular Titan V can fully saturate its memory bandwidth on compute alone and still come up short. Equally important, this means that at least on paper, there’s not much separating the new SKU from the 32GB Tesla V100 in terms of performance.

And as Hilbert mentions in the article Nvidia is listing it as 125 tflops vs the GV100's 112 tflops. Must have been some frequency changes.. I guess it's still probably limited on multi-gpu performance vs an NVLink 32GB GV100 setup. Still its pretty impressive to see a full 800mm2 chip in a product that's designed for prosumer market. They must be getting decent yields although I guess they technically aren't selling these yet.

Fox2232:

3 months ago, there were articles about Titan V having some issues with compute results. I wonder how AI calculations go on mathematically unstable GPU. Must make attempts on finding reason for misbehavior fun.

One single user with 2 cards out of 4 outputting inconsistent results in 1 application (Amber) does not equal unstable GPU Neither Amber ppl nor Nvidia have been able to replicate the issue.

Agent-A01:

It seems you are reading this wrong. Jen said nothing about these people being elite; check any other article and you'll see none of them mention anything about these 'elites'. It's just a word used to fluff this article up. He gave away 20 full GV100 GPUs for free and you are calling him pretentious.. lol Lastly, marketing is fully responsible for naming conventions of products, not Jen

Just another example of bias getting in the way of rational thought. It's like the mainstream media and their hate for Trump. If he brokered world peace, the headlines the following day would be "thousands of aid workers fired by Trump".

Seikon:

INTEL used to not be afraid of AMD , look were they are now , just saying 😛

Im sure they're running scared after losing 1% of the server market over all the months since threadripper was released.

Andrew LB:

If he brokered world peace, the headlines the following day would be "thousands of aid workers fired by Trump".

Actually, the headlines would probably be "dollar collapsed, USA is broke". :P Also, UN aid workers, ironically, don't work for the USA. Nothing against you buddy, just having some fun here in this nonsense thread of discussion that is being led.

Fox2232:

3 months ago, there were articles about Titan V having some issues with compute results. I wonder how AI calculations go on mathematically unstable GPU. Must make attempts on finding reason for misbehavior fun.

No one else was ever able to replicate that issue. Edit: Noisiv

Denial:

I find it interesting that this is the first full GV100 Titan product. And as Hilbert mentions in the article Nvidia is listing it as 125 tflops vs the GV100's 112 tflops. Must have been some frequency changes.. I guess it's still probably limited on multi-gpu performance vs an NVLink 32GB GV100 setup. Still its pretty impressive to see a full 800mm2 chip in a product that's designed for prosumer market. They must be getting decent yields although I guess they technically aren't selling these yet.

it is not a prosumer model. it is a professional gpu. tensor cores will not be a prominent feature of consumer cards, thus the wait. its not easy stripping out what used to be a feature. it entails entirely new architecture, albeit based on pascal-shrink or volta-strip. let's be real folks and understand this is a business, not a personal relationship. you may love Nvidia (or AMD), but they love your dollars/euros, not you. Nvidia has lost hundreds of millions of dollars in lost sales... to their gaming gpus. titan V 32 bit is a full on pro model, its just not called Quadro. and if any of you dispute the lost sales, i invite you to visit a Google barge.