COOOL, AMD bring it ON NOW. I want this CPU a.s.a.p.! 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓

I wouldn't really say so since all core boost is just 3,1 GHz. If anything this seems to confirm the clock problems which is likely caused by the 14nm process.

I wouldn't really say so since all core boost is just 3,1 GHz. If anything this seems to confirm the clock problems which is likely caused by the 14nm process.

The clock really does not matter to me as long as they perform as advertised (+40% IPC) and is good priced (I will not waste +600EUR for a CPU) in comparison with Intel or let's say €/"Perfromace Index" beeing better or equal with Intel. I actually expect this CPU at a 300-400 EUR range with 80...90% of the Skylake performance. I still own an old 8350 and still kick strong in all last games and day by day usage, in principle I can skip this upgrade but I just feel that I need something new (love the smell of new and fresh hardware in my rig 🤓). FX990 chipset really start showing his age too!

Polaris is also clocking considerably less than Pascal, so it's indeed quite possible architectural decisions aren't the only explanation and GlobalFoundries simply can't get it up at the moment. Although that being said, nothing explains why TSMC would have it working better since they are no more experienced with the smaller tech than GloFo, as opposed to the old man Intel.

I wouldn't really say so since all core boost is just 3,1 GHz. If anything this seems to confirm the clock problems which is likely caused by the 14nm process.

It says 3.3ghz on a engineering sample. What are you smoking?

3.6Ghz.... I was expecting at least 4.1, come on AMD this is bad. Kaby Lake prices will be once again sky-rocketing, as there is no competition. Same goes for Nvidia. AMD really needs to step up.

3.6Ghz.... I was expecting at least 4.1, come on AMD this is bad. Kaby Lake prices will be once again sky-rocketing, as there is no competition. Same goes for Nvidia. AMD really needs to step up.

The AMD Zen in the Blender rendering test was on pair (slightly faster to be correct) with the i7 6900K. This intel cpu has 8 cores and 16 threads (like Zen), 3.2-3.7GHz clock, 140W TDP and costs about 1.000€. The Zen sample mentioned in the article has 3.1-3.6GHz @95W. From what I see AMD has already achieved a big improvements over the old gen FX processors and overclocking the cpu beyond 4 GHz will be possible with less power than the Intel.

i dont mind the clocks aslong as the price is right,guys need to remember that it has been along time since we seen normal cpu from amd,and remember that amd is jummping from 32nm all the way to 14 so there is bound to be sum hit or miss things.

and thats the scary bit, if they wont be able to make 14nm right, mind that Intel has been at 14nm for quite some time now, we wont see AMD anywhere near 10nm in nearest future. That means 10nm Intel will be INSANE in terms of pricing. AMD Really needs to step up.

It says 3.3ghz on a engineering sample. What are you smoking?

It supposed to be filling store shelves in a few short months. They don't have time for numerous engineering sample revisions anymore. Unless AMD decides to postpone the release again, in which case they should just exit the market already.

You are complaining that you don't want the car because the prtotype doesn't have side mirrors and is with strange paint.Untill someone actually try for real to overclock the second batch of ES there is nothing to talk about.

3.6Ghz.... I was expecting at least 4.1, come on AMD this is bad. Kaby Lake prices will be once again sky-rocketing, as there is no competition. Same goes for Nvidia. AMD really needs to step up.

I think everybody here is forgetting we are talking about an eight core chip! Of course is going to clock lower than a four core chip... Unless someone is expecting some kind of miracle from AMD or GloFo... And like gianluca wrote, Intel´s eight core chip doesn´t clock much higher and it´s a 140W chip!... I don´t know about others, but i´m really excited about Zen and if they perform well and are well priced i´m going to get one.

The AMD Zen in the Blender rendering test was on pair (slightly faster to be correct) with the i7 6900K. This intel cpu has 8 cores and 16 threads (like Zen), 3.2-3.7GHz clock, 140W TDP and costs about 1.000€. The Zen sample mentioned in the article has 3.1-3.6GHz @95W. From what I see AMD has already achieved a big improvements over the old gen FX proecessors and overclocking the cpu beyond 4 GHz will be possible with less power than the Intel.

This is so effing insane and cannot wait until Zen comes out! Go go AMD!

It says 3.3ghz on a engineering sample. What are you smoking?

If you expect these to be close to 4 GHz at launch you are delusional and tooth fairy is real. I hope that the process manages mature when they launch Zen+.

Meanwhile Intel is preparing quad-core 7600/7700k to compete with Zen, what a joke. We dont want another quad-core CPU's for 400€ Intel.

Meanwhile Intel is preparing quad-core 7600/7700k to compete with Zen, what a joke. We dont want another quad-core CPU's for 400€ Intel.

I would not say it's a joke, it is more or less wait for AMD to make a move and drop price if they have to. Look how long it's been since AMD has had anything news or note worthy in the CPU segment to compete with Intel. That and while 8 cores are cool, most real world users are still struggling to use 4 cores with HT. So there you have it unless more games take advantage of this idea. That all being said, I'm really happy to see AMD do something with their CPU's. It's needed, I kinda miss the old Athlon 64 X2 days etc. Even when AMD does put out the Zen chips, current Intel users won't have to budge. It will however give people upgrading and current AMD users something to think about for sure.

I think everybody here is forgetting we are talking about an eight core chip! Of course is going to clock lower than a four core chip... Unless someone is expecting some kind of miracle from AMD or GloFo... And like gianluca wrote, Intel´s eight core chip doesn´t clock much higher and it´s a 140W chip!... I don´t know about others, but i´m really excited about Zen and if they perform well and are well priced i´m going to get one.

8 is great.... for rendering and work, on a day-to-day / gaming, we dont need that. So imo fast 4 core > slower 8 core, please tell me if im wrong. The only way i see us benefiting right now is if suddenly all future titles will come out as Dx12/ Vulkan optimised, and will benefit from multiple cores which will directly affect the performance. As of current situation, the whole market is a mess. I would LOVE to have strong AMD providing competitive products across the board, for both Nvidia/ Intel high-end consumer products. However situation is different, we have Nvidia with their high-end GPU, and AMD god knows when will release their next series, and even if they will be able to compete. And Intel with their good but severely OVERPRICED processors. Market needs MORE competition. Ideally a 3rd company for both GPU/ CPU market would be AMAZING. Imagine if someone would suddenly rise up with a competitive products for both of segments? Nvidia / Intel / even AMD, would be ****ting bricks. However on consumer side it would decrease prices. PC Market as of now is more advanced then ever, with more and more competitive hardware coming around which Works Well. However THE PRICES are ATROCIOUS. Look at 1080's, the price is INSANE, set alone Titan. Something has to be done. Sorry for wall of text, just sharing my view / frustration on the current situation.

This is only for Desktops, not for other segments: I may be wrong but, I'm under the impresion that AMD ZEN will fight with Intel's I5 series at best: - A lot of hype was on the GPU market, but after the release, NVIDIA is still there with high prices, i think the same will be for AMD Zen. - Intel does not seems to take AMD serious, see I7700K (not a big step from Skylake).... The problem is that we all want (including Me) a good competition and we remember the good old day's. So we expect alot from AMD. But just my opinion they are focusing on mainstream, and I don't like it at all....:bang:

Oh hell yeah that is what i am talking about!Now lets just get some prices out and we are set to go baby.:)

If you expect these to be close to 4 GHz at launch you are delusional and tooth fairy is real. I hope that the process manages mature when they launch Zen+.

I don't expect anything. I'm just going to wait and see - Any of the high-end Zen are bound to be an improvement over my 3570k.

8 is great.... for rendering and work, on a day-to-day / gaming, we dont need that. So imo fast 4 core > slower 8 core, please tell me if im wrong. The only way i see us benefiting right now is if suddenly all future titles will come out as Dx12/ Vulkan optimised, and will benefit from multiple cores which will directly affect the performance.

Back in 2010 i was on a budget and had to choose between Athlon x2 VS Core 2 Duo or pay 20$ extra and go for the athlon x4. The c2d was much faster OC vs OC in games, but i decided to go for the quad-core since i'm a multitasking freak. Well...for heavy multitasking like i do, the difference between them is huge, even if the athlon is much slower. Since then, the quad-core improved but the c2d fell too much behind, the difference is now huge in anything multi-threaded. So while 4 faster cores are nice for software now, having 8 means that you always have headroom in the future. But, if you plan to upgrade every 1-2 years, it's not that big a deal. If zen ipc is at least 20% near intel and i'd have to choose between 8core zen vs 4core kabylake, i wouldn't even blink for double thread count.