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#5670634
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Maybe B550 will run at lower temperatures, while not with severe penalties regarding features offered by X570.
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anticupidon:

Maybe B550 will run at lower temperatures, while not with severe penalties regarding features offered by X570.
Only X570 gets the new features apparently (Chipset PCIe 4.0 specifically +other) So only the X570 will need a fan.
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H83:

I hope there are going to exist some X570 boards without any fans to cool the chipset, even if it means having some limitations like only work with 8 cores cpus max or something like that.
One of the manufacturers might go for it, as a niche product, but i doubt it. Thermalright has some offset chipset coolers though HR-05 and HR-55: http://thermalright.com/product-category/archive/heatsink-archive/chipset-heatsink-archive/ The last one on their list is a CPU cooler btw 🙂 Huge. There are plenty of options for aftermarket coolers.
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asder:

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At least better then Boing...
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Very interesting the need of the fan, really a turn off for me. Hope other manufacturers manage to place a bigger passive heatsink.
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Evildead666:

Also, not being a d!ck, but if your fan is making a noise like a saw, it needs cleaning, or is touching the shroud in 99% of cases. Thats not the fans fault. The fault is in between the chair and the keyboard usually.
Spoken like a real Internet expert who has no personal experience whatsoever but still knows everything about a subject, uhhuh. The fans started to sound like a circular saw after a few years of use because they were the cheapest imaginable fans the mobo manufacturers could buy from the cheapest imaginable manufacturer in China. The plastic bearings of those fans can take only so many hours of use before disintegrating. I said my last memory was replacing one with a passive cooling elements, but before that I had replaced the broken fan with a new fan in a couple of other PCs over the years. However, I'm sure the X570 mobos won't have the kind of pitiful fans the mobos of old did.
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Kaarme:

Spoken like a real Internet expert who has no personal experience whatsoever but still knows everything about a subject, uhhuh. The fans started to sound like a circular saw after a few years of use because they were the cheapest imaginable fans the mobo manufacturers could buy from the cheapest imaginable manufacturer in China. The plastic bearings of those fans can take only so many hours of use before disintegrating. I said my last memory was replacing one with a passive cooling elements, but before that I had replaced the broken fan with a new fan in a couple of other PCs over the years. However, I'm sure the X570 mobos won't have the kind of pitiful fans the mobos of old did.
fwiw i've installed and maintained 100's of Via Epia boards with 40mm cpu fans back in the day, but hey, who cares. It used to be that people learned from other people with experience.
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Evildead666:

fwiw i've installed and maintained 100's of Via Epia boards with 40mm cpu fans back in the day, but hey, who cares. It used to be that people learned from other people with experience.
It was you who suggested people disliking mobo fans are just being hysterical over nothing. If you have such extensive experience of PC fans, don't say such things in the future.
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Kaarme:

It was you who suggested people disliking mobo fans are just being hysterical over nothing. If you have such extensive experience of PC fans, don't say such things in the future.
You need to re-read my post again. I never suggested anything of the like.
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I find it interesting that there is so much pushback about a tiny little chipset fan on a motherboard, yet god awful looking cpu coolers are a norm. https://c1.neweggimages.com/ProductImageCompressAll300/35-608-068-V02.jpg https://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll300/35-103-254-V11.jpghttps://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll300/35-103-270-V11.jpghttps://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll300/35-608-025-V02.jpghttps://c1.neweggimages.com/ProductImageCompressAll300/A66Z_130594733040013779A678P0aae3.jpghttps://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll300/35-118-046-20.jpg You get the point....gessz move on about the little fan.
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NewTRUMP Order:

You get the point....gessz move on about the little fan.
Uh... it's not about aesthetics, it's about a 30-40mm fan at 3-5K RPM sounding like a jet engine. Huge and ugly CPU coolers are... huge and ugly, but they're also very quiet.
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NewTRUMP Order:

I find it interesting that there is so much pushback about a tiny little chipset fan on a motherboard, yet god awful looking cpu coolers are a norm. .
Bigger fans are generally quieter, since they can run slower and move more air due to their size. Nevermind that CPU fans are of a standard size that you can easily get a good after-market fan for, while those built-in fans into the heatsink on the chipset are really hard to replace.
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NewTRUMP Order:

I find it interesting that there is so much pushback about a tiny little chipset fan on a motherboard, yet god awful looking cpu coolers are a norm. You get the point....gessz move on about the little fan.
No you're completely missing the point. These little fans can be irritating little high pitched f*ckers and prone to suffer a quick dead. (seen them go in less than a year). If these chipset fans die you can be lucky if it doesn't take your mainboard and/or data with it. You can't even simply replace the fan's that are used here. You'd have to strip the board of all the plastic junk and hope for the best you can find something that can be made to fit. (heatsink and/or fan)
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who knows maybe the little fan only turns on if you live in dubai without ac and plan on doing 6ghz all core, i doubt its just always on, thats just too dumb, isnt it?
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karma777police:

Nothing wrong with the fan. It is not a first time we have fun on south bridge.
Right, which is the reason people are wary about this development to begin with. It was a terrible idea the first time around.
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it suggests pci-e 4.0 is fast and hot.
The 500-Series chipsets will consume more power (~15W) than the 28nm chipsets (~8W) used on current AM4 motherboards, but that's because the 500-series chipsets also support PCIe 4.0. We weren't told the specific lane allocations of the new chipset, but those faster lanes will be useful for numerous types of secondary I/O devices.

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