What's the point of releasing new cooler models when these cards are all bought by miners? It's not like the miners would care.

"1353 MHz core frequency with the OC model clocking at 1366 MHz." What a joke, 13mhz more on the "OC" version. I wouldn't smear the OC series name with such a pathetic overclock. I hope the card has other features that make it worthy of being labeled OC edition.

Kaarme:

What's the point of releasing new cooler models when these cards are all bought by miners? It's not like the miners would care.

Their "armor" coolers are their bottom tier. Miners are probably why they're releasing these, it's the cheapest they make, unless things have changed or I'm horribly mixed up.

we haven't seen so much RX 5** right now... all for minner, france and germany... maybe we might see some of those if the moon enter in allignement with kepler and vega on the 35 of february... For now there is still 1060 6g in shop...

The Reeferman:

What a joke, 13mhz more on the "OC" version. I wouldn't smear the OC series name with such a pathetic overclock. I hope the card has other features that make it worthy of being labeled OC edition.

Generaly the OC version from MSI can go near or even reach manufacturer OC limit... On my point, i preffer 13mhz on the box and much more out of the box in manual OC than more on the box and few more when manual OC (like some EV*A, Sap***re etc...).

The Reeferman:

"1353 MHz core frequency with the OC model clocking at 1366 MHz." What a joke, 13mhz more on the "OC" version. I wouldn't smear the OC series name with such a pathetic overclock. I hope the card has other features that make it worthy of being labeled OC edition.

Makes me think of my BFG 7800 GT OC from 2005. It was 425 core vs 400 core. But with a bios flash with 1.3v it would 500 core! 465 on 1.2v. I ran it 485 @ 1.3v for gaming. I have it on my wall, and it still works. Its flashed back to stock bios. Ironically it was the most expensive 7800 GT at the time but I got it on sale, so it was worth it.

airbud7:

is it $149 like my 4g OC? ....or some stupid price?/ or better yet >....out of stock. Both Nvidia and AMD need to tighten their ass up on these crazy prices! miners are truly killing us pc gamer"s.... [IMAGE]

That would be my take on this, re-release with similar components as the previous model and make sure there's a "premium" model (+13 Mhz...Oh wow.) and then have the MSRP being the current take on 580 GPU's to profit from the price climb. At worst re-release with worse components compared to the original and a lesser overclock though it can also be a refined version at times. Kinda varies from one manufacturer to another.

JonasBeckman:

That would be my take on this, re-release with similar components as the previous model and make sure there's a "premium" model (+13 Mhz...Oh wow.) and then have the MSRP being the current take on 580 GPU's to profit from the price climb. At worst re-release with worse components compared to the original and a lesser overclock though it can also be a refined version at times. Kinda varies from one manufacturer to another.

Sapphire seems to have the same idea (their Vega 56 release for 789€ !!!), which is a slap in gamer's faces. Good job AMD + Sapphire.

I was kinda thinking about them too, Nitro model of Vega is gone from just about everywhere with the stores I checked having it de-listed with no info on further shipments so it's well it's gone basically. And now here's Pulse with a few tweaks (One less power connector too curiously enough.) but at a much higher price point. (Allowing Sapphire and probably also AMD to receive a bigger cut though I have no doubt this is going to be the most expensive Vega GPU yet with prices pushed even higher in retail stores.) For the 580 there's Nitro, Nitro+ and Nitro SE and Nitro+ SE with a blue PCB but I haven't found any comparison about the two and what differs (Plus model is slightly higher clocked but SE to non-SE there's been less info about.) and the more recent SE model is also cheaper though clocked lower. (Both also have 4 and 8 GB VRAM variants.) And then for Fury there's the early Tri-X model and then the Nitro model which while it uses a cut Fiji chip that can't be flashed the PCB is no longer stock (Though as with many AMD GPU's the stock PCB was already kinda overkill.) and the cooler saw some minor tweaks as well plus it clocks better though there are two separate editions with the difference being I think it's just the model number unless you look closely on the specs as one has a 1020Mhz clock speed and the other is 1050Mhz. EDIT: No price suggestion in the article of he MSI Armor, you'd think Mark2 would denote a update as well but we'll see if anyone does a PCB comparison and what the differences between these actually are. At least the 580 is slowly making a return and seeing some availability now and the price increase isn't as silly as with Vega.

To be fair here, I don't even think that AMD gets a bigger cut on the chips... I guess they have contracts to limit the costs per chip for the board partners. I'm surprised though to see new product launches while the old one's aren't produced anymore... I hope, for the sake of those GAMERS that want to buy the cards, that they are widely available and not just adding another entry to the list of unavailable AMD cards.