Everyone hates squatters, right? Or parasites. To what extent does the users have to bend themselves over, in order to accept that their hardware, payed with hard earned cash, to be used to deliver advertising and spying the user ? Like squatters, or parasites, the OS use the hardware to suit a different purpose than the user's. Getting rid of this parasite OS is cathartic to no end. I know, it is so hard to make a change, a real paradigm shift, as it were. But those to put their money where their mouth is will and switch to another OS, will quickly find out how much efficient their hardware is used and how much control they have. It takes some courage, determination or whatever. But it is worth is, without any false promises. Consider this: one can use Windows at work, but at home personal computing is, well, personal. Each to its own. And always ask yourselves: How can we ask for a better OS, when we aren't allowed to contribute to it? As for real, having acces to the source code or whatever. Say whatever, but security by obscurity is a short term solution.

TheDeeGee:

Linux better start working on compatibility for 90s games then!

There is no problem with 90s games on linux 🙂 (and i have a lot of them) And don't forget: if it doesn't work, then it will work 🙂

This is beyond hilarious. One should read the /r/technology about the subject

For most users a cloud based system is just better. While I see a lot of rage most of what we do in windows is cloud based anyway (gaming via steam cloud, web browsing via google cloud, office 365 via MS cloud). It's just unifying all that so for example if my PC dies I just get a new one, log-in, wait for everything to download and I am good to go.

Dribble:

For most users a cloud based system is just better. While I see a lot of rage most of what we do in windows is cloud based anyway (gaming via steam cloud, web browsing via google cloud, office 365 via MS cloud). It's just unifying all that so for example if my PC dies I just get a new one, log-in, wait for everything to download and I am good to go.

All that is good and dandy. And yes, people are accepting the ChromeOS as being the norm cloud based OS, whereas W10-11 or 12 aren't. Why is that? Well, it has to do with internet down time , data privacy and sovereignty. And not owning the OS. At the end of the day M$ will do whatever they'll decide and some users will accept that, some will not. Each to its own.

I wouldn't mind a built in encrypted could backup feature like Apple has for iPhones. Would really help a lot of non techies not lose everything.

NEVER !!

Dribble:

For most users a cloud based system is just better. While I see a lot of rage most of what we do in windows is cloud based anyway (gaming via steam cloud, web browsing via google cloud, office 365 via MS cloud). It's just unifying all that so for example if my PC dies I just get a new one, log-in, wait for everything to download and I am good to go.

i've seen it all. the problems with remote clouds are many a few include: not having timely access and having to wait for ul time power outages @ isp level service interruptions due to natural disasters (which are becoming more common) data mining by the cloud service (personalized ads are creepy AF) reliance on an OS you didn't choose local cloud service is an entirely different situation and you avoid all of the above i've run a personal cloud for years. it's more secure and you're not paying Apple or Google to mind your business. even simple 1 disk backup hardware offers cloud features from just about every vendor

This will never become a reality for the majority of the planet until we are all sitting with decent isp connections, so come back and see me in about 10/15 years time to see where we are. lol

Kaarme:

If this happens, I will switch to Linux. That would stop me from playing future Elder Scrolls, as those will be MS games as well and thus definitely only available for the subscription Windows (on PC), but then so be it.

Maybe for online use, but if you only do single player then it might not be an issue. I game exclusively on Linux, and I got maybe 8 games in my Steam library to work by using the no-DRM cracked versions of the games. So, not only will the game now play, but don't to deal with BS like Uplay or GFWL too - win-win. Of course, this is only worthwhile on games that will never see another update. Otherwise updates and integrity checks are just going to undo the crack.

tunejunky:

local cloud service is an entirely different situation and you avoid all of the above i've run a personal cloud for years. it's more secure and you're not paying Apple or Google to mind your business. even simple 1 disk backup hardware offers cloud features from just about every vendor

Despite the fact that I seem to be the only person here who isn't bothered by using 3rd party cloud services and being spied on, I appear to be one of the only people here who doesn't use any MS product. None of my PCs run Windows and I have my own public media and Nextcloud server (on a UPS, for better uptime) that runs Collabora Online. I'm a big fan of self-run cloud services. The tight integration and responsiveness within the LAN is fantastic. I'm actually upgrading my server to use 2.5Gbps, an NVMe drive, and doubling the CPU cores and clock speed (granted, it's ARM so my upgrade isn't particularly fancy) so my experience ought to only improve. Side note - ARM makes for a great server platform. Most home-server applications are built for it, some systems will only use maybe 3W of power idle, they're tiny and can be passively cooled, and they use less memory than x86 (so even 4GB of RAM and 8GB of storage for binaries will be enough for most applications). Also, one of the biggest issues with running Linux on ARM is GPU acceleration, but none of that really matters in a server. I wouldn't recommend ARM for anyone who wants the snappiest system or many simultaneous users, but in terms of performance-per-watt and performance-per-dollar, you can't beat it.

i have been on and off with Linux since Mandrake Linux, i can always jump on again, anyway they (MS) will win again as usual... I'm so tired of this giant companies

schmidtbag:

Maybe for online use, but if you only do single player then it might not be an issue. I game exclusively on Linux, and I got maybe 8 games in my Steam library to work by using the no-DRM cracked versions of the games. So, not only will the game now play, but don't to deal with BS like Uplay or GFWL too - win-win. Of course, this is only worthwhile on games that will never see another update. Otherwise updates and integrity checks are just going to undo the crack. Despite the fact that I seem to be the only person here who isn't bothered by using 3rd party cloud services and being spied on, I appear to be one of the only people here who doesn't use any MS product. None of my PCs run Windows and I have my own public media and Nextcloud server (on a UPS, for better uptime) that runs Collabora Online. I'm a big fan of self-run cloud services. The tight integration and responsiveness within the LAN is fantastic. I'm actually upgrading my server to use 2.5Gbps, an NVMe drive, and doubling the CPU cores and clock speed (granted, it's ARM so my upgrade isn't particularly fancy) so my experience ought to only improve. Side note - ARM makes for a great server platform. Most home-server applications are built for it, some systems will only use maybe 3W of power idle, they're tiny and can be passively cooled, and they use less memory than x86 (so even 4GB of RAM and 8GB of storage for binaries will be enough for most applications). Also, one of the biggest issues with running Linux on ARM is GPU acceleration, but none of that really matters in a server. I wouldn't recommend ARM for anyone who wants the snappiest system or many simultaneous users, but in terms of performance-per-watt and performance-per-dollar, you can't beat it.

absolutely i just upgraded my NAS to Asustor 6 bay all nvme and after going from spinners to ssd's and now nvme this is perfection for productivity and gaming. my router & desktops are hardwired for full speed and just my tablets, tv & guests are on wifi 6e i run a remote pc 250 miles away near my elderly mother's place and i have to tell you that my personal cloud works better than the big boys

I'll play the devil's advocate. It is reported that Internet coverage is having an exponential growth worldwide. With few exceptions, on almost all inhabited areas there's a form of internet connectivity. Having that established, with a low power device a person can have its own profile served via a cloud OS and can be productive, or engage in whatever computational task. That lowers the footprint on data centers, eliminate license activation centers and tech support for that. Alignment with saving environment-0 Moreover, having users profile in the cloud, there is no need for backups, time wasted on security scanning or whatever tasks an local OS involves. Alignment with 'own nothing and be happy about' it-1. Ultimately, having the user data and profile under one company control, there's a lot of money to be made by data mining the new oil. Alignment to 'subjugate the user and keep the walls high and closed'-2 Not in the least, by adopting the SaaS or whatever as a service, user is put on the spectator seat and will watch powerlessly whatever the companies will unleash. Will you accept this for you?

Microsoft Long-Term Vision: Windows users transition to Linux or Mac experience.

Let's not forget about the CBL-Mariner

Long term vision is, OS as a service.

anticupidon:

Valve has its own OS, it's called SteamOS. No comments on the W11 or W12.

Really? Does it operate like Windows? NO! What are you talking about?

The day this happens is the day I switch to only using Linux. I've already been trying different distros since Windows 11 is a dumpster fire. M$ can go shove their permanent "you rent everything and own nothing while we spy on you" model up their decrepit out-of-touch dinosaur asses.

goat1:

Really? Does it operate like Windows? NO! What are you talking about?

Who said anything about Windows? More, why Windows should be the standard? What are you talking about?

bigfutus:

Long term vision is, OS as a service.

long term vision is: microsoft dead.