Microsoft will install Windows 11 on older PCs, but with a warning

#5948847

Undying

2021-09-23 09:38

What a mess. I can already see the future where we dont use windows anymore.

#5948848

southamptonfc

2021-09-23 09:44

Users of old hardware rejoice! You can use your PC safe in the knowledge that the next time you turn it on, Microsoft wont have broken it.

#5948852

KissSh0t

2021-09-23 09:56

For some this is kind of a selling point.

#5948856

alanm

2021-09-23 10:09

Dumb. For those with old HW, why would anyone with half a mind choose to upgrade a fully functional OS to one that does not update? I am sure there will be a few that do, and presumably security updates will continue, just other updates wont.

#5948860

kcajjones

2021-09-23 10:19

I do feel like we just need a surge in WINE or Proton development, to the point that it's seamless running Windows software on Linux. At that point, we have backwards compatibility and can move forward with everything Linux based.

#5948863

alanm

2021-09-23 10:28

Cant wait to see W11 adoption rates a year from now. Should be embarrassing for MS. The tech media will tear them a new one over this. 😀

#5948865

TheDeeGee

2021-09-23 10:34

Undying:

What a mess. I can already see the future where we dont use windows anymore.

Same was said 10 years ago, yet here we are.

#5948866

KissSh0t

2021-09-23 10:35

alanm:

Cant wait to see W11 adoption rates a year from now. Should be embarrassing for MS. The tech media will tear them a new one over this. 😀

Or perhaps the even funnier situation.... high adoption rate but people can't update because "unsupported" hardware.

#5948867

PsyaNyde

2021-09-23 10:42

I have no doubt whatsoever in the future availabilty of 'hacked' copies of win 11 that will either bypass this TPM 2 requirement or 'spoof' it's presence.

#5948868

RealNC

2021-09-23 11:11

I can already see users trying to find a method to get this feature on supported PCs as well.

#5948886

EngEd

2021-09-23 12:39

If you can bypass the TPM 2.0 requirement, I am pretty sure it will be possible to get updates manually and bypass the requirements again. On the good side, no need to get huge amounts of W11 updates all the time, unless there are major bugs that make the system unstable or something.

#5948889

southamptonfc

2021-09-23 12:45

RealNC:

I can already see users trying to find a method to get this feature on supported PCs as well.

I wonder if turning TPM off in the BIOS would do the trick?

#5948893

Astyanax

2021-09-23 12:53

EngEd:

I am pretty sure it will be possible to get updates manually and bypass the requirements again. On the good side, no need to get huge amounts of W11 updates all the time, unless there are major bugs that make the system unstable or something.

you can bypass it already, its called DISM.

#5948896

Astyanax

2021-09-23 12:55

The message says the following: This PC does not meet the minimum requirements to run Windows 11 - These requirements serve to ensure a more reliable and higher quality experience. Installing Windows 11 on this PC is not recommended and could result in compatibility issues. If you proceed to install Windows 11, your PC will no longer have support and will not be able to receive updates either . Damage to your PC due to lack of compatibility is not covered by the manufacturer's warranty. By selecting "Accept", you acknowledge that you have read and understood this message.

Thats not what the message says at all. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/292727720876703744/890552360080924682/unknown.png Theres a difference between "not entitled to" and "won't receive"

#5948913

P.O.N.

2021-09-23 13:41

Astyanax:

Thats not what the message says at all. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/292727720876703744/890552360080924682/unknown.png Theres a difference between "not entitled to" and "won't receive"

...so Win11 on old HW will get updated?

#5948937

Ripcord

2021-09-23 15:21

I really cant understand the logic of excluding Ryzen 1xxx but including the 2xxx processors, ZEN and ZEN+ are functionally the same

#5948941

Astyanax

2021-09-23 15:48

P.O.N.:

...so Win11 on old HW will get updated?

you can always force deploy msus and cabinets

#5948943

Undying

2021-09-23 15:51

Ripcord:

I really cant understand the logic of excluding Ryzen 1xxx but including the 2xxx processors, ZEN and ZEN+ are functionally the same

14nm vs 12nm and some ipc increase on zen+ but yeah basically the same. Funny thing is that 1600af isnt supported and 2600 is.

#5948952

reix2x

2021-09-23 16:43

probably windows 11 will start with slow adoption rates, but it will catch up (maybe in some years), w11 will probably work better on those new kind of bigLITTLE CPUs because of the core changes microsoft have implemented to support those changes in architecture.

#5948963

Jagman

2021-09-23 17:27

Running Zorin OS16 on a separate SSD, have been for a couple of weeks now and it's not bad, quite an eye opener. Using Windows 10 for support only.