Microsoft Shares More Details on Microsoft DirectStorage for PC in April (update)

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Erick:

Yes. It's compatible with Gen 3 NVMe SSD's and any GPU that supports DirectX 12, which are most current NVIDIA GPU's. Most likely Keplar and above NVIDIA GPU's. For AMD, my guess is anything near the HD series GPU's will not support it. Microsoft keeps using their commercial verbiage around it, so what they say publicly is blurred.
Kepler will not support directstorage, its a FL11 gpu.
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Astyanax:

its misleading, the developer still has to be using a MSVC toolset that is aware of directstorage features so the resulting binary knows how to use it. It won't magically work in existing games.
Won't Windows itself make use of this though, in general usage? If it won't, what is this bulletpoint!?
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theoneofgod:

Won't Windows itself make use of this though, in general usage? If it won't, what is this bulletpoint!?
Windows just offers the capability, its not going to make games use it.
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Astyanax:

Windows just offers the capability, its not going to make games use it.
Really......? Still doesn't explain the bulletpoint
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theoneofgod:

Really......? Still doesn't explain the bulletpoint
the people its relevant too know what its saying.
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Astyanax:

the people its relevant too know what its saying.
"No developer action required" that's kind of ironic. You said it's misleading. I know what an API is and I know DirectStorage is targeting game development, but that bullet point, even that entire slide is questionable. Pretend I'm a developer that doesn't require any action. No riddles.
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Astyanax:

Kepler will not support directstorage, its a FL11 gpu.
Is Kepler still supported by NVIDIA?
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Alessio1989:

Is Kepler still supported by NVIDIA?
Irrelevant, FL11 hardware don't have the necessary functionality.
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What's the boundary? CS shader capabilities or virtual resource handling?
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Alessio1989:

What's the boundary? CS shader capabilities or virtual resource handling?
DirectCompute capabilities with the CC 3.0 feature set, but likely limits in Resource Binding and UAV slots as well. Kepler has a significant issue with Framebuffer bandwidth limits (on top of 2-3GB top outs) as well. Theres a bit of misinterpretation going on that all this feature does is move data from drive to vram with a DMA copy, but the data is actually using a DirectCompute based compression (unlikely to be xpress based, word is its completely new) decompressed on the gpu during the process. Edit: I've just noticed wording has been changed to "Capable" rather than "Compatible" which also rules out Kepler, The notion of Function Levels is basically how a Fixed Function card was advertised as being D3D8 compatible, whilst not actually supporting the hardware combiners that make it D3D08 Capable..... You can run the game, at a reduced performance or quality (as certain options don't exist).
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Reddoguk:

I was gonna say Gen4 only? My Gen3 4tb MP400 hit's 3500 and 3000 speeds which is still pretty fast. Ok it's not 7000 speed or even 5000 but for me it's still super fast.
Those speeds that all SSD makers love to quote (and drive test software loves to highlight) are NEVER seen in real world Windows environment when you are doing anything with your PC. See they are always testing reading huge blocks and 32 queue depth (QD32) - which is not what happens ever when Windows reads anything from your SSD for normal software. Normally only one thing reading at a time (QD1) and only in tiny blocks (eg 4K) Eg. not much real world difference in speed loading games from a 10TB Enterprise storage HD, and the latest greatest PCI-E 4.0 NVME SSD.
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Really looking forward to this API update. The texture pops of the past where horrendous and one heck of alot needs to change for totally seamless eyecandy fly updating. I'm hoping 3D mark will get in on the act and release a Benchmark.
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vestibule:

The texture pops of the past where horrendous and one heck of alot needs to change for totally seamless eyecandy fly updating.
This has nothing to do with LOD stepping.
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Astyanax:

This has nothing to do with LOD stepping.
Thats not as I understand it from what I was reading on the M$ web site today.
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vestibule:

Thats not as I understand it from what I was reading on the M$ web site today.
Please, stop as a layman reading things and saying "i saw this, so it'll fix that" No, thats not how any of this shit works, LOD steps aren't going to magically vanish because of directstorage, there are already means and methods to hide them available that hardly any body uses now as is.

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