Microsoft Testing Playing Xbox Games in PC Browsers

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#4913082
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When they talk about playing in browsers i think that 3d engine is not mentioned. Is more some youtube. You press keys, some server catch them, run the game, and send you the "video". Something like that. In that case lag is the biggest enemy. am i worng?
#4913083
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^ you are correct, but as you've read, their service reduces lag significantly . We just have to wait and see how it goes.
#4913132
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But this way we are going to play on PC and not using their xbox hardware, what is the whole point in that? I mean I would be happy I don't own any console anyway.
To suck money from pc users for their console games through subscriptions.
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Honestly makes me wonder why it has taken them this long. How hard is it to imbed a decent 3D engine in a browser anyhow? Internet browsers have become a decrepit fossil of the past, I don't even know why we're still using them. Why doesn't EPIC or ID make a browser with their 3D tech. Anyone with some cash and some clever idea's could wipeout the entire browser market over night if they wanted to. Heck, they're practically giving 3D engines away these days but everyone wants to make another stupid shooter. Such a waste of talent out there.
Because that's not what anyone is doing. This is game streaming, a.e. all rendering and gamelogic takes place on a remote machine and the result is streamed to whatever device you're hooked up with.
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Honestly makes me wonder why it has taken them this long. How hard is it to imbed a decent 3D engine in a browser anyhow? Internet browsers have become a decrepit fossil of the past, I don't even know why we're still using them. Why doesn't EPIC or ID make a browser with their 3D tech. Anyone with some cash and some clever idea's could wipeout the entire browser market over night if they wanted to. Heck, they're practically giving 3D engines away these days but everyone wants to make another stupid shooter. Such a waste of talent out there.
That browser is called Firefox. https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/03/18/gdc-2014-mozilla-and-partners-prove-the-web-is-the-platform-for-gaming/ https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/03/12/mozilla-and-epic-preview-unreal-engine-4-running-in-firefox/ https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2013/12/12/first-3d-commercial-web-game-powered-by-asm-js-unveiled/ https://hacks.mozilla.org/2014/05/asm-js-performance-improvements-in-the-latest-version-of-firefox-make-games-fly/ Here are some demos to try. http://beta.unity3d.com/jonas/AngryBots/ http://beta.unity3d.com/jonas/DT2/ https://developer.mozilla.org/ms/demos/detail/bananabread Most browsers have support for WebGL now, including Safari in iOS 8. So you can play 3D games right in the browser. Quake 3 http://www.webgl.com/2011/11/webgl-quake-3-demo/ http://media.tojicode.com/q3bsp/ Quake 2 https://code.google.com/p/quake2-gwt-port/ http://quake2playn.appspot.com/
#4913212
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Honestly makes me wonder why it has taken them this long. How hard is it to imbed a decent 3D engine in a browser anyhow? Internet browsers have become a decrepit fossil of the past, I don't even know why we're still using them. Why doesn't EPIC or ID make a browser with their 3D tech. Anyone with some cash and some clever idea's could wipeout the entire browser market over night if they wanted to. Heck, they're practically giving 3D engines away these days but everyone wants to make another stupid shooter. Such a waste of talent out there.
There are plenty of 3D engines integrated into browsers but what's the point? You still need a good rig to run the engine. And I don't see how they've become a "decrepit fossil of the past" when literally 99% of people use them to access the internet, unless I missed something and everyone found a new way overnight. Like what the is the market for a 3D browser engine? I've never sat down and been like "well damn if only I had a 3D engine in my browser I'd have so much fun".
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There are plenty of 3D engines integrated into browsers but what's the point? You still need a good rig to run the engine. And I don't see how they've become a "decrepit fossil of the past" when literally 99% of people use them to access the internet, unless I missed something and everyone found a new way overnight. Like what the is the market for a 3D browser engine? I've never sat down and been like "well damn if only I had a 3D engine in my browser I'd have so much fun".
I was thinking the exact same thing. Considering how many people still use a version of IE below 9, and considering the amount of crappy tablet users, I see no need to have a 3D engine. But, Unreal Engine 3 does have a browser plugin, I think there's also a browser plugin for the Doom 3 engine, and there's a Blender plugin. Anyway, I really don't understand this sudden interest in streamed gaming. I'd rather the time and money be spent on optimizing games/hardware and use 1 machine locally. Having a crappy machine handle the display and inputs for a good machine over a network just doesn't sound appealing to me.
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Nah...
To suck money from pc users for their console games through subscriptions.
More like expanding the XBox Live. If you think about it, this would expand the X1 platform to a few billion devices in the world. And in that case the PS4 "lead" in sales would become a joke. That would be a huge opportunity for developers. Im sure X1 and PC would offer better experience in most cases, but that doesn't matter much in the end.
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Microsoft may have to work with publishers to allow for this type of gameplay as it could cut into their revenue from PC game sales.
Who would they be losing revenue from? I don't imagine anyone with hardware capable of running a game is going to opt to stream it instead, that would be like streaming a movie when you've got the BD.
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Well ****. I thought nobody else thought of this. This idea came across me last year and I was planning to do something with it in the future.
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Grabs popcorn. An interesting discussion on the forums! Bring on the days where the cost to play games and run MY applications is the cost of the display + internet + subscription. SAAS ftw. No more buying redundant hardware? Hellyespleasewheredoisignjusttakemymoney!
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Anyone who doubts streaming should check out Kainy, Remotefx, or nvidia shield streaming (which can be done on any device). I've been to a few Diablo III lan games with my 2010 intel-graphics NETBOOK, which cant even open the game up on local hardware. I had ONE lag problem out of a dozen or so lan games. (using Kainy for PC) Gotta have decent internet connection on both ends though.