Manufacturers on RTX 3080 CTD issues, Inno3D Offers a Shocking Response

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Inno3D "It just works".
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Undying:

Inno3D "It just works".
In this case it probably doesn't 😛
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Gives a whole new meaning to "Brutal by Nature".
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TheDeeGee:

Gives a whole new meaning to "Brutal by Nature".
Yeah, it was a brutal response to the customers' questions. They live up to their slogan.
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Zotac:
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Haha well Inno has that written as their logo motive: INNO3D - BRUTAL BY NATURE :D
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I think the best response is by Galax with its glorious statement. 😛
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I think you're overreacting regarding Inno3d response, that's generic but not shocking in any way, they're literally just saying their product aren't defective. Especially in light of DerBauer recent testing which showed the minimal impact of capacitor swapping and good feedback from recent Nvidia driver update.
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XenthorX:

I think you're overreacting regarding Inno3d response, that's generic but not shocking in any way, they're literally just saying their product aren't defective.
This is what I thought. Do they actually have problems with their cards?
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Tat3:

This is what I thought. Do they actually have problems with their cards?
Haven't heard anything about Inno3d cards so far? They might not even have shipped yet? Looking forward to further feedback from driver update, from derBauer video it really looked like a software issue at first glance (GPU sudden 100MHz frequency jump before crash). But of course, the cleaner the input power is, the further you can theoretically go with overclocking, of course it's part of the equation as everyone can understand that but let's not blow it out of proportions.
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I heard that Zotac fixed their cards before they got to market by flashing their cards with a new vBIOS which changed the clock frequency so the max boost doesn't reach 2ghz because users were complaining about their cards under performing so that might have been the cause. I am just hoping with the other cards the 3070s and the 3060Tis there is no issues like this. I also agree with Buildzoid and what he said in his video about this. That Nvidia is also to blame here as well because they could have stepped in and said Hey Zotac, etc this doesn't match on what we made and what we sent you. We highly recommend that you redo this. Not sure on what to think about Inno3d's response considering their cards are not even out to market for sale here.
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I bought a Inno3D card years ago, it was just a mid range card but it died after only 6 months. I've been avoiding their products ever since. EVGA and Asus are my go-to AIB partners.
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My 980-ti inno3d is the only gpu i ever fried but i made a silly custom ROM for it, so that's on me also, served me well for 2years despite the heavy power ROM.
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XenthorX:

I think you're overreacting regarding Inno3d response, that's generic but not shocking in any way, they're literally just saying their product aren't defective. Especially in light of DerBauer recent testing which showed the minimal impact of capacitor swapping and good feedback from recent Nvidia driver update.
"Your $1500 USD video card has to be throttled by software to prevent it from crashing? No issues, working as intended. Carry on, peons." That's a dogshit response. If anything he's underreacting. You don't sell high end products at stupid price tags, then say there's nothing wrong when everyone knows there is, when it's YOUR FAULT for using cheapass parts on an incredibly expensive item. "2.1GHz+? Just settle for 1.9GHz, it's not like you paid $1500 for it, there's nothing wrong, stop complaining, shut up." That attitude needs to be shot straight into the deepest depths of hell and burn there for all eternity. Companies are horrible enough with people complaining, if everyone became even more complacent it's not going to stay the same, it gets WORSE.
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XenthorX:

I think you're overreacting regarding Inno3d response, that's generic but not shocking in any way, they're literally just saying their product aren't defective.
Yeah, I was also a bit surprised by this. If their claims are wrong, they'll probably get sued or at the very least, get a bunch of returned products. Perhaps in their own testing they realized something else needed to be done to attain stability. Perhaps their actual test environment is good, but that doesn't necessarily means everyone else's is. Bold claims need evidence to back them up. If people aren't having issues, then I don't see a problem here.
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We're merely one week after release and suddenly the internet is filled with electrical/electronical engineers pointing fingers at AIB partners, and affirming without the slighest doubt that their design is faulty, jumping to conclusions.
Neo Cyrus:

"Your $1500 USD video card has to be throttled by software to prevent it from crashing? No issues, working as intended. Carry on, peons." That's a dogshit response. If anything he's underreacting. You don't sell high end products at stupid price tags, then say there's nothing wrong when everyone knows there is, when it's YOUR FAULT for using cheapass parts on an incredibly expensive item. "2.1GHz+? Just settle for 1.9GHz, it's not like you paid $1500 for it, there's nothing wrong, stop complaining, shut up." That attitude needs to be shot straight into the deepest depths of hell and burn there for all eternity. Companies are horrible enough with people complaining, if everyone became even more complacent it's not going to stay the same, it gets WORSE.
So new hardware should have perfectly working drivers on day one? One month ago AIB couldn't even run real world applications, just Nvidia testing suite. Again there's no "cheaping out" here, those capacitors are different product period, there's not even marginal cost difference here. (MLCC are actually cheap ! They're the most common!) https://imgur.com/3HH4dkX.jpg PosCaps red line https://i.imgur.com/MEFZ1Ay.png https://i.imgur.com/QG0LtLJ.png When you see those graphs the full PosCaps configuration doesn't look silly at all.
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interesting read not sure i buy that response as truth, A PR made response to downplay it more like it. I sure they will "fix" threw Firmware/drivers then in later revisions of the card they will charge hardware configuration
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ViperAnaf:

so the "fix" is to downgrade the promised performance lol
I highly dought 20 to 40 mgz would any difference in performance at all if you are talking a few hundred then maybe 2-5 fps so are the drivers working to fix the ctd?
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cowie:

I highly dought 20 to 40 mgz would any difference in performance at all if you are talking a few hundred then maybe 2-5 fps so are the drivers working to fix the ctd?
I believe it's been fixed for "most" people, some still get crashes and have to underclock, but that could be because of a factory OC. With the standard FE settings the issues are gone i believe.