Lisa Su confirms Q3 launch for Ryzen, Epyc and NAVI
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nizzen
When it's in stock in stores, is what I want to know 😉
Undying
Lets hope AMD deliver with these cpu/gpu's.
cryohellinc
My internal slav is happy at this news.
fantaskarsef
Please AMD: give us benchmarks so we know if we want it. And then, bring stuff to stores in abundant numbers, and you'll make a crapload of money.
ttnuagmada
Hmm, I wonder what they mean by "all new GPU architecture". Everything they've shown until now has indicated Navi was just going to be another GCN iteration.
Undying
Tipical overhyping the product with amd instead of being modest and pricing it right.
ttnuagmada
"Poor Turing"
cryohellinc
If in the end Navi lands in around the area of 2080 performance wise, and for a lesser price, that will be a successful product.
Richard Nutman
I'd be surprised if it didn't have enough changes to make it compete better. Simply a node shrunk Polaris or Vega wouldn't cut the mustard anymore.
mohiuddin
Plz be realistic. A radeon vii performs at rtx2080 level. It's been clearly indicated before that navi would be their mainstream gpus.
Overhype is a bad thing, people get unnecessarily disappointed.
ttnuagmada
Radeon VII is sub-2080 performance as it currently stands, and they're at the limits of manageable TDP. I'd be pretty surprised to see anything faster than a Vega 64.
alanm
That extra confirmation is well timed to remind buyers of alternatives to Intels security-plagued CPUs.
nevcairiel
The slide says "Radeon VII + Navi", which seems to indicate to me that Radeon VII is not going to be replaced - which in conclusion means that Navi is going to be slower.
ttnuagmada
Both of these slides are from this year; 2 things. They clearly go out of their way to designate their next GPU to be their "next gen" architecture, and they also specifically indicate that we won't see any real efficiency gains until that architecture. It's not in quotes either, so "next gen" is not the name.Efficiency gains are what AMD needs to be able to do much of anything at all at this point, and they indicate we shouldn't really expect much in that department.. They are literally TDP limited to 1080 Ti performance on a smaller node at this point. Navi definitely won't be that fast.
I can't find the slide, but there has been one floating around for a couple of years that has Polaris/Vega/Navi listed before "Next Gen". Common sense would tell you that Navi is still clearly GCN.
There is also this:
https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/navi-linux-confirms-gcn-design
edit: One thing I will say though, which is entirely possible, is that Navi will actually be as big as Vega. I don't find this to be very likely given how expensive early 7nm is, but it's possible I suppose, and it would line up with rumors (save for the TDP).
https://hothardware.com/ContentImages/NewsItem/47155/content/AMD-GPU-roadmap.jpg
https://images.anandtech.com/doci/14286/gpuroadmap_575px.png
nevcairiel
It may be ground breaking, but possibly not quite as useful. There is only so much hardware every core has, and while a second thread can make use of scheduling deficits to use idle hardware quite well, there are extremely strong diminishing returns from adding more threads to individual cores - nevermind software limitations in even keeping more threads busy.
In a consumer line, like Ryzen, I really don't see the added value for more SMT threads.
Netherwind
The wait is getting bothersome -.-
I still hope for a July CPU release though.
nizzen
July is bad for overclocking in EU, so they are delaying it to late september 😉
spine
Indeed. Intel's response to all this on the desktop front says it all, as in, they're doing absolutely nothing.
FrostNixon
Q3 for Ryzen, me no like. No idea why I had expectations that it could arrive by the end of Q2 right after Computex...
Netherwind
You have a point there 🙂
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