Aura89:

And none of this is taking into consideration costs of manufacturing and overall business costs, this is just very simplified

the cost of these cards to create and manufacture and ship to store for 1 card cards are no where near actual cost they trying to sell them for. i would not be surprised if there charge 3x the actual cost to make and ship to store for 1 card. Nvidia atm is all about push price as high as they can and get as much out of before they cant. and i will to bet they are doing like AMD and purpose reducing supplies to keep prices high, if amd can get away with do so can nvidia.

rflair:

He will be showcasing his new fashion line of menswear.

Hope he's been hitting the gym with increased vigour. COVID and time have not been kind to my main guy; the last we saw him.

Texter:

Something about a Titan powered chicken egg brooder you can hang on the back of your PC...right in time for Easter... [spoiler]https://cs-tf.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Currens-7-Egg-Mini-Chicken-Egg-Incubator.webp [/spoiler]

If you install a 4090 you get Balut

GarrettL:

But Huang knows you haven't been able to afford to upgrade over the last couple of years. He knows your aging gpu is starting to struggle with the new titles. And he knows you have little other option than to pay him $500 for a mid-range gpu. He knows AMD is still floundering for some unknown reason with their gpus and drivers. Huang knows he has you by the balls. Huang doesn't care. 😛

And to imagine, I got my 1660 Super for 210€ brand new. One of the best investments I've made on PCs over the years. I bought the card just before the pricing-craze began. I could afford the price of the current 4060 easily, but I seriously don't see the reason to pay 600€ for a card, especially since, I only play a game or two. Furthermore, I'm old, now. 33 years old.

NiColaoS:

And to imagine, I got my 1660 Super for 210€ brand new. One of the best investments I've made on PCs over the years. I bought the card just before the pricing-craze began. I could afford the price of the current 4060 easily, but I seriously don't see the reason to pay 600€ for a card, especially since, I only play a game or two. Furthermore, I'm old, now. 33 years old.

Wish I was as "old" as you! I'm 55 and still enjoy pc games.

Texter:

Something about a Titan powered chicken egg brooder you can hang on the back of your PC...right in time for Easter...

That could be a good thing when you consider the cost of eggs...... We'll call it crypto-egging

For me the highlight of the keynote is to admire Jensen's beautiful leather jacked.

GarrettL:

Wish I was as "old" as you! I'm 55 and still enjoy pc games.

Well, I meant “old” in the sense, I can hold myself back on some things in comparison to previous times, younger me. Currently, only on SSDs, I'm still a sucker. Since I got my first Samsung 830, I got each one that came afterwards, 840, 850, 860, and now I'm on two 970 EVO Plus while none broke on me. Tempting to go 980 Gen 4 since my M/B supports it, but I'm fine on this as well. In that way, I meant “old”. Pretty sure you get what I meant. Furthermore, it's nice you still have the patience to enjoy games. For some reason, I don't. It seems I'm one of the victims of our generation which says, our attention span has decreased considerably due to Social Media. Even a good film do not have the patience to watch sometimes. Right now, I've installed Dishonoured: Death of the Outsider, Assassin's Creed Odyssey, Hitman 3 and Dragon Age Inquisition, but didn't start anyone yet. Only some online War Thunder and DOTA I mostly play. I want to play all of them since I liked the previous ones, but…

Aura89:

That's not how that works. You don't limit supply to keep prices up, you limit supply to not over-produce. If you have to limit supply so much that it hits your bottom dollar, that doesn't make something more expensive, in fact, that would have the opposite affect, as any company would rather sell something for cheaper, if the end result is they have more sales that gets them more money overall, then less sales and less overall money. Basically any company would rather have: 100,000 sales at $100 for a value of $10,000,000 dollars Than 75,000 sales at $125 for a value of $9,375,000 dollars And none of this is taking into consideration costs of manufacturing and overall business costs, this is just very simplified There is absolutely not one single company or anyone who makes anything that is not trying to flood the market with products they can't sell, and yet now that there have been articles of chip manufacturers doing exactly what they have always done just as everyone has always done, somehow they are the evil doers for trying to not over produce, however backwards logic that makes sense. And there's a very big difference between making as much as you possibly can based off of physical ability (wafer/TSMC/etc.) due to demand being so high (the last couple of years) and making as much as you can with a limitless ceiling. TLDR: Statements like this make zero logical sense.

The summary of what he wrote is what you wrote. They kept production down to artificially starve the market, and get a disproportionate increase in final prices. They have both admitted doing this. They would have sold the products, the whole Covid era was people not being able to find them, they had the opposite problem of overflowing inventory.

PrMinisterGR:

They kept production down to artificially starve the market, and get a disproportionate increase in final prices. They have both admitted doing this...

Meanwhile gamers bought 30 million PS5 units in last couple years. Whatever "artificially starving" of the GPU market has occurred must have played a part in the recent record sales of the consoles market. I wonder if shareholders one day replace Jensen with an AI bot his company has been creating.

alanm:

Meanwhile gamers bought 30 million PS5 units in last couple years. Whatever "artificially starving" of the GPU market has occurred must have played a part in the recent record sales of the consoles market. I wonder if shareholders one day replace Jensen with an AI bot his company has been creating.

And i'm one of them. I refuse to pay the high prices of the 4090 or 7900xtx. I also want an AM5 setup, but motherboard prices mean it looks like i'm skipping that also.

GarrettL:

But Huang knows you haven't been able to afford to upgrade over the last couple of years. He knows your aging gpu is starting to struggle with the new titles. And he knows you have little other option than to pay him $500 for a mid-range gpu. He knows AMD is still floundering for some unknown reason with their gpus and drivers. Huang knows he has you by the balls. Huang doesn't care. 😛

But does he know my 3080 SuprimX is still enough lol.

Maddness:

And i'm one of them. I refuse to pay the high prices of the 4090 or 7900xtx. I also want an AM5 setup, but motherboard prices mean it looks like i'm skipping that also.

I went the skip a gen route and didnt buy Ampere. Will also skip 50xx series. So in essence my overall GPU costs still the same vs when cards were cheaper but was upgrading every gen.