wonder will he talk about dlss introduced into chrome

bensmooth:

wonder will he talk about dlss introduced into chrome

Chances are he'll talk more about Bing than Chrome

Bing and Chat

NiColaoS:

"God Dammit, I'm on 1660 Super and while I'm extremely happy thus far, I'd certainly consider going 4060, but 550€? It would be great upgrade. Instead of my current card, a 4060, at 450€ would be a perfect upgrade."

@NiColaoS RTX 4060 for €550 in EU? That's optimistic. I think the starting price will probably be around €650, but retailers will sell it for €700 and up.

deathnite:

@NiColaoS RTX 4060 for €550 in EU? That's optimistic. I think the starting price will probably be around €650, but retailers will sell it for €700 and up.

I wrote those prices as a joke, since that would be overpriced. But it wouldn't surprise me if they ended up even more expensive than the joke... Given that the 4070 Ti currently starts at about 900€ (with the only exception being the 850€ Manli 4070 Ti), they just might demand 800€ for the 4070 and 700€ for the 4060 Ti. And then NVidia will say "mainstream users should buy RTX 3000 GPUs."

RealNC:

I wrote those prices as a joke, since that would be overpriced. But it wouldn't surprise me if they ended up even more expensive than the joke... Given that the 4070 Ti currently starts at about 900€ (with the only exception being the 850€ Manli 4070 Ti), they just might demand 800€ for the 4070 and 700€ for the 4060 Ti. And then NVidia will say "mainstream users should buy RTX 3000 GPUs."

4070ti is £800 - £950 so standard 4070 will probably be like £650 - £750 £500 for a 4060 makes sense to them These cards are about double the price they should be

My prediction: Probably a lot of noise and "ecosystem" babble, possibly even with 2/3 of it being related to pro cards and environments. If gaming, the lower end cards will be relatively expensive and released sometime in Q2. And if we're very lucky and his leather jacket's itching him hard, there's news about any Titan or 4090Ti with it's 4 slot vertical PCB 😀

PinguX:

These cards are about double the price they should be

Some people will claim they're way cheaper than what they should be and that we're getting an absolute bargain. If the 4060 Ti ends up being three times faster than my 980 Ti, then that would mean it should cost $1950 (three times the price of the 980 Ti.)

RealNC:

Some people will claim they're way cheaper than what they should be and that we're getting an absolute bargain. If the 4060 Ti ends up being three times faster than my 980 Ti, then that would mean it should cost $1950 (three times the price of the 980 Ti.)

Ha, some people right! The smart ones know that large increased performance is to be expected from a new generation of technology, and they should also know that prices should really only increase from generation to generation with inflationary pressure that the specific industry is facing, in general. (Albeit we understand the GPU shortage madness of the previous gen and how that affected prices, but that's a blip.)

RealNC:

Some people will claim they're way cheaper than what they should be and that we're getting an absolute bargain. If the 4060 Ti ends up being three times faster than my 980 Ti, then that would mean it should cost $1950 (three times the price of the 980 Ti.)

which my point by that logic the some people seem think that is normal we already be looking even insaner prices for gpu then we already have. 3050ti is most ridiculously over price entry level card in have seen in over 20 years. and high end prices arnt any better from stand point performance to cost those high end card are only one worth it. if you can afford them in first place and there insane TDP consider cost of electric now. if run 60fps and 1440p or even 4k on game from ps4 gen and play nothing new, card probably insanely efficient and cool running

Robbo9999:

Ha, some people right! The smart ones know that large increased performance is to be expected from a new generation of technology, and they should also know that prices should really only increase from generation to generation with inflationary pressure that the specific industry is facing, in general. (Albeit we understand the GPU shortage madness of the previous gen and how that affected prices, but that's a blip.)

you would think. it all only gona get worse so long as those people keep thinking that and keep give nvidia/amd/intel and any other company the idea that it will be bought and sold, they are ALL pushing prices well beyond actual inflation they are all reducing supply to keep price up and stuff sold out and in amd case they are purposely reducing supply to keep prices up and only one that admitted it. the global recession that is coming is gona tank everything, and probably anit gona help matters

I think Chat GPT is reading these forums, because I asked what the keynote was going to be about, and I got this response:

Jensen Huang's keynote speech on March 21st is an epic performance that defies the laws of physics. As he takes the stage, he is wearing his trademark leather jacket and a baseball hat with the NVIDIA logo. The crowd is already excited, having heard rumors of an amazing new technology that NVIDIA has been working on. Jensen starts his speech by introducing ChatGPT, an AI-powered assistant that can answer any question in real-time. But then, things take a turn. Jensen begins to levitate off the stage, hovering several feet above the ground. The crowd is stunned as he begins to beatbox, creating an incredible rhythm that seems to fill the entire room. As he continues to float in mid-air, Jensen explains that NVIDIA has been working on advanced time-travel technology, which has allowed the company to create products that are years ahead of their time. He says that this technology has also given him incredible new abilities, such as levitation and beatboxing. As the beatbox rhythm continues, Jensen introduces a group of breakdancers who take the stage and perform an amazing routine that seems to defy gravity. The crowd goes wild as the beatbox rhythm gets louder and the dancers continue their incredible moves. Jensen then returns to the topic of AI, saying that NVIDIA's advanced technology has allowed ChatGPT to become the most intelligent AI assistant in the world. With the help of time travel, NVIDIA has been able to anticipate the needs of its customers and develop products that are years ahead of their time. The performance ends with Jensen Huang landing back on the stage, his levitation powers seemingly exhausted. The crowd is left stunned and amazed by the incredible display they have just witnessed. The speech is widely regarded as one of the most incredible and unforgettable events in the history of tech conferences.

Now, I swear to god that at some point in the past I have mocked Jensen about wearing leather jackets and break dancing in these forums, so, this is very weird for me to read...

Loobyluggs:

As he continues to float in mid-air, Jensen explains that NVIDIA has been working on advanced time-travel technology, which has allowed the company to create products that are years ahead of their time. He says that this technology has also given him incredible new abilities, such as levitation and beatboxing.

lmao 😀

Is there some sort of plugin I can install that blocks everything about that soulless parasite? I don't want to hear about him and I'm tired of seeing his stupid face.

If he bring any benefit to gamers, I give him 5mins. otherwise, Next.... I dont care about useless technology and his dreams... fuck u asshole.

PinguX:

4070ti is £800 - £950 so standard 4070 will probably be like £650 - £750 £500 for a 4060 makes sense to them These cards are about double the price they should be

4060 will be limited by memory at the start. He wants you to buy 4070. With every tier they make people question their purchase until you buy 4090. And lets not even start about that bs marketing using frame generation in their slides. 4070ti 2-4x faster than 3090ti, yeah right. They really think we are that dumb or they just dont care.

What could he possibly say that's worth listening to? After hearing the notes from that meeting with him talking about stock limits, I don't need to hear anything else.

Loobyluggs:

I think Chat GPT is reading these forums, because I asked what the keynote was going to be about, and I got his response: Now, I swear to god that at some point in the past I have mocked Jensen about wearing leather jackets and break dancing in these forums, so, this is very weird for me to read...

hahahaha!

Yeah, pretty sure I've also wrote about him snorting coke off a hooker's ass, in his leather jacket of course, then breakdancing. Among other variations.

GarrettL:

The prices during Crypto and Covid weren't just relative to the demand of the open market, they limited production to help elevate the pricing.

That's not how that works. You don't limit supply to keep prices up, you limit supply to not over-produce. If you have to limit supply so much that it hits your bottom dollar, that doesn't make something more expensive, in fact, that would have the opposite affect, as any company would rather sell something for cheaper, if the end result is they have more sales that gets them more money overall, then less sales and less overall money. Basically any company would rather have: 100,000 sales at $100 for a value of $10,000,000 dollars Than 75,000 sales at $125 for a value of $9,375,000 dollars And none of this is taking into consideration costs of manufacturing and overall business costs, this is just very simplified There is absolutely not one single company or anyone who makes anything that is not trying to flood the market with products they can't sell, and yet now that there have been articles of chip manufacturers doing exactly what they have always done just as everyone has always done, somehow they are the evil doers for trying to not over produce, however backwards logic that makes sense. And there's a very big difference between making as much as you possibly can based off of physical ability (wafer/TSMC/etc.) due to demand being so high (the last couple of years) and making as much as you can with a limitless ceiling. TLDR: Statements like this make zero logical sense.

Aura89:

And none of this is taking into consideration costs of manufacturing and overall business costs, this is just very simplified

What are you trying to prove by issuing such a disclaimer? If a company sells 100k products for $100, with a profit margin of $30 per unit, it's $3M in profit. If a company sells 75k products for $125, now with a profit margin of $55 per unit, it's over $4M in profit. Not to mention to handle a lower quantity, the company might be able to lay off an employee to save further money. They might need to pay for the transportation a little less. Between 75k and 100k, the needs of mass production might not change because they are both quite large numbers. Even if they changed a little bit, it might not change so much it would affect the profit difference too much. Another issue you failed to notice is that outside of crypto mining crazes, the market is not infinite. You can only expect to sell a certain amount of graphics cards. It was proven with the Turing generation that you can raise prices and still sell as much as you expected, within that finite market potential. If by lowering the product price you sold a little bit more, it wouldn't necessarily be as profitable as selling less for a larger profit margin, as there's a certain upper limit to how much the market will buy even if you lower the price (within reason). Nvidia is seemingly trying to gauge the absolute maximum price they can ask, while still selling within the expected demand range. It's not possible in a healthy market, but it is possible when you have got a 90% market share. Bah.