Intel to release Cooper Lake - Another 14nm based processor
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user1
The question is, is it a backport of some newer uarch or will intel continue to pedal skylake variants and increase the tdp inorder to sustain higher frequencies
nevcairiel
Its not exactly unexpected. We already knew that 10nm wasn't coming out before Holiday 2019 for Consumer, and 2020 for Server, so there would be something in between.
I do hope that Ice Lake will actually be good though, once we see it.
JamesSneed
This couldn't have happened to a better company. Im so happy Intel is faltering a bit we need AMD healthy with a decent market share to keep pricing and innovation in place. Intel should have just stuck with "Whiskey Lake" because they are going to need one in 2019 while AMD wipes the floor in the server market.
FYI: Next time someone asks how many drinks have you had, the correct answer is 2++(Just add as many plusses as needed).
Solfaur
When Lakey Lake?
Reddoguk
The question remains, will the enemy(AMD) beat them to 7nm or not. 7nm Zen 2 - 8/16 core or 3700X should be a beast while being only very low wattage. If it's 25% better single core performance then they'll have a super sweet product on their hands.
It's crazy to even think about that AMD might have jumped ahead of the competition beating them to lower nm parts. Intel will be stuck on 14/10nm for a good while yet.
-Tj-
Fail. Next, milkyou lake
So I see icelake is now 2020.. was end 2018 at first, then 2019.. Amd ryzen2 it is then.
Venix
@Reddoguk stuck on 14nm sure but 10nm is not as bad if they get it right from what was heard in the past intels 10nm are about equal or slightly better than tsmc's a 7nm the thing is their 10 nm was meant to lunch in 2016 or so
Reddoguk
Maybe but will 10nm or even 7nm improve fps in games? i have my doubts. I believe in the near future all chips will perform pretty evenly in games at least. People will stop choosing which is the better gaming chip over which is the least hot or noisy or which is better at fps/temp/watts rather than pure overclocked speed.
If fps is high enough then i'd prefer a cooler system and won't overclock anymore. I game @ 1080p on a 24" 75hz monitor which i run with V-sync on just to keep the temps/noise down. Nearly every game i play can manage 75 fps solid and the temps are well below 60C. Even though it's only 15hz more than a 60hz monitor i can see a huge difference between 60 and 75 hz.
My next cpu will be able to hit that 75hz/fps easy while on default settings hopefully remaining really cool while doing it.
vbetts
Moderator
Current offers from AMD and Intel could considering they both by default have turbo enabled could do 75hz most games out the box I'm sure.
Aura89
Issue i see is, if they are this far behind on their 10nm, where are they at on anything lower?
Venix
@Aura89 nowhere i guess but it does not mean they will hit such wall on the next proccess we will see i guess!
waltc3
Stock prices are decided by people who a) know little about tech, and b) are not in the tech industry. It is unwise to read anything more into them--as well, Intel is highly diversified--it's not just tech anymore and hasn't been for a long while. Several years ago when AMD was in free fall technically as the company had lost its way post Opteron, its shares peaked at ~$50, IIRC, before it became obvious that the company had, in fact, lost its way, and the shares began to nosedive. Stock share price is never a predictor of future performance. High share price does not mean future success; low share price does not mean future failure, etc. *Products* are everything.
waltc3
What was not known, however, is what AMD would do and bring to market. The days of Intel being the only game in town are done. I believe that has changed the outlook, somewhat...;)
RavenMaster
So will there be any tock CPU refreshes on X299 chipset? Any answer to Threadripper 2? Or do we have to wait till 2020 when IceLake emerges?
nevcairiel
Cascade Lack is the X299 refresh.
RavenMaster
Thanks mate
