#5720324

BLEH!

2019-10-14 15:15

The battle now goes between intel and AMD "who can get the bigger socket"!

#5720327

Undying

2019-10-14 15:22

Buy that time AMD will have Zen4. The fight is heating up.

#5720332

nizzen

2019-10-14 15:33

Fun times 🙂

#5720340

svan71

2019-10-14 15:54

Well having 4.0 with AMD is better than waiting a year for Intel's work in progress 5.0 AMD will have 5.0 on Ryzen 4.

#5720347

nevcairiel

2019-10-14 16:14

Rumors have been around for a long time that PCIe 4.0 would be very short lived and Intel might even consider skipping it, or if anything not push too hard for it, but push for PCIe 5 instead. Suppose these got a bit more substance now.

#5720374

fantaskarsef

2019-10-14 17:34

Honestly... nice for professional fields. As a gamer, those technologies are more or less irrelevant at the moment. Even PCIe 4.0 is for 90% of all scenarios, imho.

#5720380

DmitryKo

2019-10-14 17:52

Who might have thought Intel will be skiping PCIe 4.0 - they were making very vague and inconclusive statements, something about accelerating the adoption of PCIe 5.0 and 6.0, but nothing about PCIe 4.0! Now we need more jokes about needing PCIe 7.0 ludicrous speed.

#5720383

Silva

2019-10-14 17:58

Not that the average user will ever need PCIe Gen5 anytime soon (or Gen4), having faster lanes means you can have cheaper to manufacture products using less lanes. Imagine your high end GPU only using 4 PCIe Gen5 lanes, reserving the rest for other components.

#5720459

waltc3

2019-10-14 22:03

You'll see that from Intel in the ~2022 time frame, is my guess....;)

#5721326

DmitryKo

2019-10-17 11:14

And yet Ice Lake SP with Socket 4189 (to be released in 2020) might get PCIe 4.0 with the Whitley platform. https://wccftech.com/intel-xeon-sapphire-rapids-granite-rapids-cpus-lga-4677-compatible-ddr5-pcie-5/

#5725886

DmitryKo

2019-10-30 23:56

Ub3rslay3r:

with 200Gbps Ethernet available on the market, it's sad the average consumer is still stuck with 1Gbps Ethernet

Etherner over twisted pair is limited to 25G/40G. 2.5GBASE-T and 5GBASE-T Ethernet reach 100 m with Cat 5E/6 cables, 10GBASE-T requires Cat.6A to reach 100 m, and 25GBASE-T and 40GBASE-T require Cat.8 cabling and only work up to 30 m. There are recent 'gamer' X570 motherboards which use 2.5GBASE-T or 10GBASE-T Ethernet controllers from Realtek and Marvell/Aquantia; I believe Intel prepares 2.5GBASE-T products as well. But there aren't many 2.5G/5G/10GBASE-T switches/routers, not to mention internet providers that offer >1 GBit/s.

Ub3rslay3r:

I wouldn't be surprised if consumers get PCI-e 5.0 after servers already have it.

Intel's adoption cadence has always been quite fast - if PCIe 5.0 comes to Server/HPC by 2021, it shall trickle down to workstation/desktop by 2022; AMD's Ryzen will probably have it too by then.

#5725901

GSDragoon

2019-10-31 01:13

Those multi-hundred dollar UFO-looking routers need to start making them with 10G ports.

#5729585

DmitryKo

2019-11-08 23:09

I'm fine with 2.5G Ethernet over twisted pair; unfortunately there are only a few home Wi-Fi routers capable of 2.5G, and they are crazily priced: $400 ASUS ROG Rapture GT-AX11000 and $300 TP-Link Archer AX6000A. There's a forthcoming $150 Keenetic Titan with 2.5G WAN ports, but it won't be available in Europe or America.