The TDP is typically not the largest amount of heat the CPU could ever generate (peak power), such as by running a power virus, but rather the maximum amount of heat that it would generate when running "real applications." This ensures the computer will be able to handle essentially all applications without exceeding ...

Astyanax:

TDP only accounts for thermal design, the cooler system needs to displace and diffuse xxxw amount of power. the cpu itself can be using 95w but consumes from the socket and needs a cooler of 130w.

Noisiv:

why would it NEED 130W cooler?

Astyanax:

because its not a 100% efficient heater, this is a illfounded theory based on the idea that the processor has the same resistance values the entire way through.

Noisiv:

100 joules go in and only 98 joules are dissipated as a heat. Why would you need 130 joules to be dissipated?

Astyanax:

the cpu decided to boost and tdp goes out the window. obviously this ignores the cpu consumes x but tdp needs to be y, but the point needs to be made TDP is a worthless metric except when shopping for a AIO or heatsink.

Fox2232:

So, there may be heatsink + fan capable to dissipate 130W of heat while its temperature and temperature of cooled objects remains stable. Yet one such scenario may be: Environment temperature 20°C, CPU temperature 65°C, heatsink's center of mass temperature 45°C. Or: Environment temperature 20°C, CPU temperature 85°C, heatsink's center of mass temperature 60°C. 1st scenario is cooling solution that requires small delta T to deliver 130W cooling capacity. 2nd scenario requires bigger delta T to deliver same cooling capacity. Yet both can claim ability to dissipate 130W of heat.

Fox2232:

And that brings rather simple definition for cooling solution requirement which nobody uses: CPU die has certain target operational temperature "Tc". It has IHS and indium in between. There is bound to be temperature difference "Tz" between CPU die and surface of IHS. Cooling solution adequate for CPU of specific "Px" power draw must be able to dissipate "Px" watts while it keeps IHS at temperature "Ti" under ambient temperature "Ta". Where "Ti" is target temperature of CPU "Tc" - "Tz".

Fox2232:

Once more, Power consumption is not something you or intel can bend. They can bend a lot of things, but not SI and direct derivatives.

Noisiv:

And then there is AVX which will put it even above 130W if run without negative offset.

Fox2232:

Then as one, you should be able to get from SI units to W. Or is "Power consumption" something else in your dictionary? Because you implied that intel is free to bend likes of "Power Consumption".

Fox2232:

Intel is bending what they can by leaving relevant information out. Or are using definitions separately from products, so they have legally covered backs and as such can be false. Yet, Mailman is weirdly defending them to death. And even puts his occupation at front line.

TheDeeGee:

Hilbert needs to review one, see how it compares in gaming vs the 11400, 11600 and 11700.

Fox2232:

Isn't it bit overkill? I've built system with old Ryzen 5 2400G (65W) and tiny 150W PSU was more than enough.