Intel is Trying to Manipulate AMD Ryzen Launch?
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Spets
I stopped reading at S|A, honestly don't know why you'd bother posting anything from Charlie.
Looking forward to your review of Ryzen though, the leaked benchmarks show it really shining. At this rate my next CPU will be an AMD for sure unless Intel get their **** together (or if the leaks are fabricated 😉)
koliko
Its crazy but i would say it could easy be true, if you think how much $$$ is involved here. One small "manipulation" could easy make few % diference in sale. We can use simple math to calculate how many millions USD that is 🙂
mohiuddin
Hilbert, Could you please do your "RYZEN unboxing" video :P
k3vst3r
Few billion fine, compared to vast amount of sales they took away. Pretty sure it was win/win for Intel still, even after been fined by the EU.
AlmondMan
http://*************/intel-playing-dirty-undercut-amd-ryzen/ (wccftech) This article has an update on it. It says:
[UPDATED – Feb 26 2017 7:16 PM ET]
The editors-in-chief of two of America’s top PC hardware and technology publications have confirmed to Wccftech that they have indeed been approached by Intel regarding upcoming Ryzen reviews. Although both said that it was business as usual. Affirming that Intel’s response following AMD’s Ryzen announcement was what they had expected it to be. Adding that nothing was particularly unusual about the emails they received from Intel.
[End of update]
AlmondMan
Higher RAM speeds seldom yield much benefit, inside the type of RAM used (there's generally been benefits to increasin from type to type, though ddr3->4 showed kind of meh gains for performance). Some tasks are boosted by it, but usualy not much.
Kaarme
Asus and Gigabyte already did list up to 3200, though.
bonomork
If true it's unfair competition.
Kohlendioxidus
For politics like this (as it is not the first time) Intel will never get my money. I do not suport companies that have antitrust issues and their bussiness model is based on corruption of others! I sticked with my 8350 till now and pre-ordered the 1800x (with mobo and RAM) based on AMD review but more important based on the fact that I trust their bussiness concept. Lisa (their CEO) do what Steve Jobs did for Appled when he took them over again in '97!
Let's be correct here, my 8350 served me well and could serve me as good in the future. One of the reasons I ordered the 1800x and all the rest coming with it, is to support AMD as spending that amount of money for an upgrade is not an issue for me 🙂 !!!
FrostNixon
By the way, shouldn't the NDA be lifted before launch day or AMD are afraid some reviews might hurt them and people might cancel their preorders?
Kaarme
Preorders have nothing to do with it. That's just something stores are doing in the hopes of securing lots of sales and on the other hand eager customers do in the hopes of securing one product from the first batch.
The NDA is only fair as it allows all reviewers and other such operators to have an equal chance. Some receive a sample earlier, some later. If there was no NDA, the lucky earlier ones would catch all the attention and traffic. From the manufacturer's pov the impact is bigger when it happens all at once and is not diluted over a span of time.
Nothing forces anyone to preorder before reviews are out. The only ones that absolutely have to accept such a risk are the stores that have ordered batches of stuff to sell.
Silva
I think it would be common practice to contact the press to relay some information about new upcoming products, strategy and prices.
Doing it to actually try to influence the reviews results is shameful...I'm very salty about the current price on Intel CPUs and about them holding the technology.
I already dropped Nvidia in 2013 and I I'll drop Intel on my next build.
shamus21
Hilbert I am sure you will give us your own unbiased reviews on AMD products with out any interference from Intel.
Alessio1989
all we need now is the announcement of a desktop AM4 single socket version of Naples for desktop, with quad-channel, 16-32 c/t, black jack and luxury whores.
Kaarme
Intel is an ex-convict, ruled guilty in both Europe and the USA. The world simply is such that if someone has once been punished for a particular crime, it's easy to suspect that same someone to do it again. Especially when the punishment was so light that it was only a fraction of the gain from the crime.
sunnyp_343
I am Intel guy but want to say AMD go F**K Intel in As.
Intel money grinding Corporation.
Stormyandcold
Btw HH, I didn't get it from reading other sites, it was from youtube videos...which seems to have been deleted now.
OnnA
YES ! ryZEN Unboxing for the masses :mhp:
Jagman
Processor porn, disgusting!........Yes please :banana:
vbetts
Moderator
If this is true, Intel is really worried about Ryzen's launch, but more than what we thought.
Even before Core 2 duo times, when the Athlon 64 and the original FX and the legendary Opteron 165 ran circles around Intel's offering, Intel still had the higher market share due to their partnership deals and advertising. They were never worried about AMD taking some market share, as even if they did it wouldn't be enough to actually do some damage to Intel.
But now, Intel doesn't have an exclusive partnership with the big names like they used to. The media outlet has pretty much become 100 times bigger with information being out there from many different sources, but the biggest thing is AMD's AM4 platform is going to be very very cost effective. If IPC performance from Ryzen to the next die increases but price/performance ratio stays the same, AMD is going to take market share.
What I don't understand is why? AMD has some extensions licensed from Intel, as Intel has extensions licensed from AMD. They both can make their money that way at least.
