Freeman:

. Frames per dollar always matter. Application execution in seconds per dollar matters too.

Freeman:

They seem to be very loud and sensitive saying empty statements like: AMD is better. Theres a lot of them and it has been spreading with the name ''Ryzen''. So when they report record sales next April, it will actualy be a sizeable difference. AMD has never had customers so attached and hyped to what they sell.

Freeman:

Market share? You are wrong on that one, it can be googled and is free information. And market cap has been rising steadily for last 2 years its trippled.

k3vst3r:

It's cause enthusiast market is tiny compared to oem's, business, laptops. Enthusiast might be switching to AMD in record numbers, but everyone else isn't.

Raserian:

It's a brand fanboyism, alright.

Raserian:

Yeah thanks for the clarification, the last time I have checked it was around 20% circa around 2019, just like in your graph - I don't track that stuff often although I should verify any changes before posting. They are getting close, we will see if that changes anytime soon. Is there any way to verify if OEMs are favoring AMD more now, or is higher market share enough of a marker?

kapu:

Alright but only that amd is better for gaming right now. Until rocket lake comes at least.

Sixtyfps:

How do you figure ?

kapu:

Gaming benchmarks lots of them.

Sixtyfps:

Intel still best in every game

kapu:

Vs Zen2 Yes.

Sixtyfps:

still better than 5000 series

kapu:

Saying white is black doesn't make it black. [youtube=zYhwBk8GE6M] Go troll somewhere else please.

cucaulay malkin:

5600x is better hands down,not just performance in game but the whole package - application performance,power,features. it's a stroll for 5600x to take on 10600K but look at pricing https://www.ceneo.pl/93590964 https://www.ceneo.pl/98430083 900 vs 1550,should we really compare them ? did people compare 7700k against ryzen 1500x ? at this point even 10700KF is cheaper and you can buy an i9 for the same price https://www.ceneo.pl/93590966 https://www.ceneo.pl/93704625 that price tag is offputting,and intel is dropping down consistently.

kapu:

Im not discussing prices as they are way above msrp and stupid. Troll said Intel is better (faster in my book) which is not the case at least for now

cucaulay malkin:

what are you gonna do..... better not respond to such comments tbh, why waste time.

cucaulay malkin:

check kf 270 eur is a lot,at this point 5600x may be worth extra 50 over 10600k but then again 10700k could be around same price too and that is a much harder decision. seen 10600kf selling for 190eur here.10th gen prices are finally making sense here,they're nice gaming and office cpus,but frankly,no one should buy 14nm skylake in 2021 unless heavily discounted. I don't care about nm that much,mostly about value.Never bought a cpu more expensive than 1300pln and that was my absolute max,and I only did it once.so in terms of value 10600kf at 850-900 is ripping a 1550-1600 5600x to shreds.

kapu:

Saying white is black doesn't make it black. [youtube=zYhwBk8GE6M] Go troll somewhere else please.

Sixtyfps:

You are looking at the low end lets look at the best out there

cucaulay malkin:

350 eur is not low end I've had 200-300 eur cpus that when tuned topped charts when they came out.People are only buying 5600x cause amd gave them no other choice under 400eur. 5600x is good,but look at rdr2,same happens in cyberpunk and a few more recent games where it's not that much different from a eur140 i5 10400F. performance overall is very good for sure,but cost per frame......this thing should be 250-270 eur tops when 10600kf sells under for half the price. https://geizhals.de/amd-ryzen-5-5600x-100-100000065box-a2392524.html https://geizhals.de/intel-core-i5-10600kf-cm8070104282136-a2283963.html https://geizhals.de/intel-core-i7-10700kf-v33509.html it's quite puzzling how things changed.intel is selling a 10 core for the price of amd's six https://geizhals.de/intel-core-i9-10900f-v33511.html