Just sold my AMD stock a few days ago. From $41to $93. Dividends, cash and RMD at work. A good run in about 6-months time. This does not happen very often. Then all the hype AMD got in the blogs helped the stock further along. Had to contain myself not to buying a new SL Roadster to impress the silver haired ladies. Hope AMD will not break $100 per share making me unhappy. Now I think it's Intel's time with Alder Lake and their new processes coming our way. Our dear friends from Intel introducing two new generation CPU's in less than one year got to be good for business. Mobo manufacturers getting to "double-dip" this year as well. Not looking for a $$$ windfall that AMD so kindly provided this year, but Intel just (modestly) rising $25 per share would be appreciated and Intel making me happy in the first quarter of 2022. Great to see that Intel's results for the fourth quarter topped estimates, allowing outgoing CEO Bob Swan to leave the company on something of a high note. Regardless, Bob will be very happy indeed as he will be landing with a 'golden parachute' in a gated country club community. A mid-century fairway home and members only. Life is good.

Hilbert Hagedoorn:

2020 sales were also strong: $ 77.9 billion... Many of us cleaned-up in the past 6-months with AMD stock. Happy times. But now it's Intel's time to come around. All Intel signals are green in corporate and a 'double-whammy' of new generations coming our way this year. Intel's first quarter 2022 earnings call cannot come soon enough. This is where my money or former AMD windfall will be!

I love the comments and all the AMD fanboy's acting like AMD is some great company. Hardware fanboy's are worse then console fanboy's. I personally want the best CPU in my rig for gaming. I don't care if its AMD or intel I just want the best i can afford at the time. At the end of the day its pure numbers. Right now Intel is still the best for gaming so that is what I have. If you are a gamer like me there is nothing in the CPU market that gets me excited because current chips offer a high end experience with the game that are out. There are no good games that have come out in the last 2 years that have been 100% finished and are quality. AMD has closed the gap on intel which doesn't shock or impress me. New games like watch dogs and Cyber punk can even run at 100 fps with current graphics which I call BS. We have a real problem with games and the development with them coming out half baked. Im glad intel is still making CPUs and working hard at good gaming chip. We just need the GPu market to sort itself out

anticupidon:

I said affordable ECC platforms. Affordable as in 350-500 eu range one can find a lot of decommissioned Intel servers Xeon based. Epyc and TR are way, way expensive for my budget, if I'll decide to get one.

Compared to similar Intel systems, they are affordable. Are you looking for an entire PC for 350-500 eu with ECC support? Because even a non-ECC Ryzen build is going to offer some pretty underwhelming specs for that price, especially if VAT is part of your budget. There are AM4 and 1151v3 motherboards out there with ECC support. That saves a large chunk of change.

Care to give some links or examples. Thanks in advance! I know you want to help, I am looking for aforementioned hardware to buy.

Sixtyfps:

I love the comments and all the AMD fanboy's acting like AMD is some great company. Hardware fanboy's are worse then console fanboy's. I personally want the best CPU in my rig for gaming. I don't care if its AMD or intel I just want the best i can afford at the time. At the end of the day its pure numbers. Right now Intel is still the best for gaming so that is what I have. If you are a gamer like me there is nothing in the CPU market that gets me excited because current chips offer a high end experience with the game that are out. There are no good games that have come out in the last 2 years that have been 100% finished and are quality. AMD has closed the gap on intel which doesn't shock or impress me. New games like watch dogs and Cyber punk can even run at 100 fps with current graphics which I call BS. We have a real problem with games and the development with them coming out half baked. Im glad intel is still making CPUs and working hard at good gaming chip. We just need the GPu market to sort itself out

Alright but only that amd is better for gaming right now. Until rocket lake comes at least.

kapu:

Alright but only that amd is better for gaming right now. Until rocket lake comes at least.

why? how is it better. Give me a AMD CPU to compare against Intel performance. I see i5-10600k for £233.99 4.1Ghz base clock and it outperforms many AMD's for high prices. So Im pretty noob at choosing Ryzen, please enlighten me. Should I buy Ryzen 5 for 3.6Ghz around £160 and call it a win by saving £75? Should I say ''AMD is so much better'' because of that?

Freeman:

why? how is it better. Give me a AMD CPU to compare against Intel performance. I see i5-10600k for £233.99 4.1Ghz base clock and it outperforms many AMD's for high prices. So Im pretty noob at choosing Ryzen, please enlighten me. Should I buy Ryzen 5 for 3.6Ghz around £160 and call it a win by saving £75? Should I say ''AMD is so much better'' because of that?

It is faster, there isnt much debate on that. I'm not saying anything about prices or performance per $. If you want to know more you should read some guru3d reviews. Apples to apples 5600x beats 10600k. In almost all scenarios. I don't know what you ment by base clock at all. Please clarify

kapu:

It is faster, there isnt much debate on that. I'm not saying anything about prices or performance per $. If you want to know more you should read some guru3d reviews. Apples to apples 5600x beats 10600k. In almost all scenarios. I don't know what you ment by base clock at all. Please clarify

5600x is a great CPU with great base clock speed, but it does cost more. So well done AMD on 4.6Ghz base clock. But we cant say for that 5600x £300 is better than £240 CPU so 'AMD is better'. https://www.overclockers.co.uk/AMD-Ryzen-5-5600X-Six-Core-4.6GHz-Socket-AM4-Processor-Retail-CP-3CC-AM.html?campaign=affiliate/tag&utm_source=pcpartpicker&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=affiliategateway https://www.overclockers.co.uk/intel-core-i5-10600k-4.10ghz-comet-lake-socket-lga1200-processor-retail-cp-67y-in.html

Guys, let's keep this thread on its original track and intended purpose. Also, let's not forget that neither AMD or Intel are your buddy willing to give you free hardware. Every company has its ups and downs. It's only when manufacturers fight for offering the best price/performance hardware parts when customer can "win". You still pay, but you're likely to get better performance for your money.

Freeman:

5600x is a great CPU with great base clock speed, but it does cost more. So well done AMD on 4.6Ghz base clock. But we cant say for that 5600x £300 is better than £240 CPU so 'AMD is better'. https://www.overclockers.co.uk/AMD-Ryzen-5-5600X-Six-Core-4.6GHz-Socket-AM4-Processor-Retail-CP-3CC-AM.html?campaign=affiliate/tag&utm_source=pcpartpicker&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=affiliategateway https://www.overclockers.co.uk/intel-core-i5-10600k-4.10ghz-comet-lake-socket-lga1200-processor-retail-cp-67y-in.html

Wrong words. It's not better its faster.

anticupidon:

Guys, let's keep this thread on its original track and intended purpose. Also, let's not forget that neither AMD or Intel are your buddy willing to give you free hardware. Every company has its ups and downs. It's only when manufacturers fight for offering the best price/performance hardware parts when customer can "win". You still pay, but you're likely to get better performance for your money.

yeah, I just dont get the hype. Im a really stupid guy and I wish to be enlightened.

We all here to learn. We all have our level of "stupidity". We are here to diminish it.

anticupidon:

We all here to learn. We all have our level of "stupidity". We are here to diminish it.

yah, man. Im glad for others, they are past the baby steps.

kapu:

Wrong words. It's not better its faster.

£240 i5-10600k Base Clock 4.1 Ghz Turbo 4.8Ghz £300 5800x Base Clock 3.8 Ghz Boost 4.7Ghz its about the same for 6 cores, 12 threads and Intel is simply cheaper. So I really dont get it, how its faster or better. They are the same and one is cheaper.

anticupidon:

Guys, let's keep this thread on its original track and intended purpose. Also, let's not forget that neither AMD or Intel are your buddy willing to give you free hardware. Every company has its ups and downs. It's only when manufacturers fight for offering the best price/performance hardware parts when customer can "win". You still pay, but you're likely to get better performance for your money.

This is kind of a surface of the things, AMD and Intel are competitors but they are not equal companies in the field of either just the CPUs or just electronics in general. What I mean is, it doesn't matter that AMD has better performing CPU in the same category than Intel, it's not important. Intel lives off a huge contracts to OEMs and other companies, most of the Intel's chips are going to laptops, servers, desktops...etc majority of computers that are ever sold are with Intel CPU and that is what matters. Those few thousand gamers who are going to buy 5600X for their home build because it performs better than i5 are not going to make sizable difference. HEDT, High-end gaming...etc are all things that are hyped about but in reality are the niche of niches and are only mentioned in forum wars, youtube reviews and ofc the press conferences because those are rising share values, but it ends there. Intel has been making bad chips most of its existence and it dominates the market no matter what. AMD is unlikely to raise its market share significantly, no matter what, that also goes for GPUs and so on. AMD is here just as the alternative to Intel, alternative to Nvidia, for someone who intentionally does not want to own Intel product. Everyone else(literally) is going to continue to buy Intel. OEMs ... etc are always going to buy from Intel first.

I think that AMD's laptop market experience in the next few years will equal the current desktop story with AMD CPUs versus Intel today. I'm so happy that Intel is "satisfied" with it's 7nm progress--now all Intel has to do is to start selling 7nm CPUs. Wake me when that happens. And I do very much hope for Intel's sake that it can continue to use its own Fabs since the company has so many billions invested in them and not even Intel can afford to carry its own non-producing Fabs. As each year goes by with AMD the acknowledged global technology leader and Intel once again playing catch-up, Intel will have less and less money to burn as time moves on. "Past performance is no guarantor of future results," as every stock prospectus states. These days, Intel is the "value segment" whereas AMD is top dog. Ironic, isn't it?

Fox2232:

You are in fool's race. Notice word "decommissioned". In other words, race here is: "One man's" trash becoming other man's treasure. vs. Gold with which "One man" replaced his trash.

I was explicitly pointing out new parts. 1151v3 isn't that old. I'm sure socket 1200 Xeons will show up shortly.

anticupidon:

Care to give some links or examples. Thanks in advance! I know you want to help, I am looking for aforementioned hardware to buy.

You should @ me next time so I know you're referring to me. I don't get the alerts otherwise. As was pointed out earlier though, Asrock (and Asus) have some AM4 boards with ECC support; all AM4 CPUs support it so just go with whatever budget you have. I don't know what kind of stores your country has (all I know is you're European), but sites like newegg.com allow you to filter for ECC and socket type, which makes finding the results you need pretty easy. You could probably do your shopping there to find the board you like, and then buy it in your local country. As for Intel: Supermicro, Asus, and Asrock each have socket 1151 motherboards with ECC support around the $200 range. That's a pretty good price for an ECC-compatible motherboard. Actually quite a lot of options, too. There doesn't yet appear to be anything with 10th gen support, but really... there's not much of a difference compared to 9th gen anyway so you're not really losing anything. The socket 1151 Xeons are all very affordable, by Intel standards anyway. In general, I'd advise you go with AMD for this. They don't artificially limit ECC support (even if the mobo manufacturers might) and I'm sure you're well aware you get more bang for your buck.

Tom Sunday:

Just sold my AMD stock a few days ago. From $41to $93. Dividends, cash and RMD at work. A good run in about 6-months time. This does not happen very often. Then all the hype AMD got in the blogs helped the stock further along. Had to contain myself not to buying a new SL Roadster to impress the silver haired ladies. Hope AMD will not break $100 per share making me unhappy. Now I think it's Intel's time with Alder Lake and their new processes coming our way. Our dear friends from Intel introducing two new generation CPU's in less than one year got to be good for business. Mobo manufacturers getting to "double-dip" this year as well. Not looking for a $$$ windfall that AMD so kindly provided this year, but Intel just (modestly) rising $25 per share would be appreciated and Intel making me happy in the first quarter of 2022. Great to see that Intel's results for the fourth quarter topped estimates, allowing outgoing CEO Bob Swan to leave the company on something of a high note. Regardless, Bob will be very happy indeed as he will be landing with a 'golden parachute' in a gated country club community. A mid-century fairway home and members only. Life is good.

angelgraves13:

Should have sold it when it was $97 last week. TSMC stock is looking really good now..

Regarding stock exchange, you could have made a little fortune since march 2020 with almost every kind of shares, but Wirecard.....

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Raserian:

What I mean is, it doesn't matter that AMD has better performing CPU in the same category than Intel, it's not important.

Frames per dollar always matter. Application execution in seconds per dollar matters too.

Raserian:

Those few thousand gamers who are going to buy 5600X for their home build because it performs better than i5 are not going to make sizable difference.

They seem to be very loud and sensitive saying empty statements like: AMD is better. Theres a lot of them and it has been spreading with the name ''Ryzen''. So when they report record sales next April, it will actualy be a sizeable difference. AMD has never had customers so attached and hyped to what they sell.

Raserian:

AMD is unlikely to raise its market share significantly, no matter what, that also goes for GPUs and so on.

Market share? You are wrong on that one, it can be googled and is free information. And market cap has been rising steadily for last 2 years its trippled.