since chris is running his mouth about it, this is a gamer part.

After all their difficulties with 10nm and 7nm CPUs, how is Intel able to crank out a 7nm GPU?

I can imagine Intel offering a power efficient consumer option at first, but not likely much more powerful than RTX 2060. They most likely want the new chip into laptops, where Intel's main focus lies right now and where they have had to rely on competing solutions. Power efficiency is also appreciated in data centers.

msotirov:

What? There are much more FreeSync monitors out there than GSync. FreeSync is starting to appear on TVs too, beating GSync to market by a full year.

Clearly you didn't get it.

I... might be in the losing end on this, but... maybe I'm the only one not really excited? I seriously doubt we will see a competitive GPU in 2020. Node? Drivers? Performance itself, even if the drivers work? Support by other programs like 3D modelling / rendering? And as a buyer in the highest segment of GPUs, I doubt Intel will have an offer for me personally. Sure, the low and mid segment will see much gain of a 3rd player, but until Nvidia has to even move their little finger, I still put my hopes into AMD battling it out with Nvidia in the enthusiast segment. Also, I don't see how the lower tier massively profits from this... AMD already has excellent offerings for 1080p and reasonable 1440p offers. 4K is still out of reasonable reach of anybody, especially taking RT into account. This is not saying they shouldn't try, but honestly, Intel has had a history of lacking innovation... why is everybody now thinking they will just miraculously throw over the GPU market? That seems a bit too optimistic for me personally.

cryohellinc:

Clearly you didn't get it.

What it is to get? Freesync is everywhere. 200$ cheppo monitor have it while gsync is only at 400$ range and up (also needs an nvidia card only).

Undying:

What it is to get? Freesync is everywhere. 200$ cheppo monitor have it while gsync is only at 400$ range and up (also needs an nvidia card only).

You didn't get it either.

slyphnier:

it depends on ur expectation if u expecting all of sudden they releasing high-end GPU segment on first-launch, then it wont be anything good but different story if u expecting new-player joining GPU market, and how far their first product performance can reach so not necessary need high-expectation, mild-expectation might be better in most case AMD already prove they can make amazing work with Ryzen now Intel with tons of cash, do u think its impossible for them to rivaling Nvidia in near-future?

We shall see if they can. Depends on what they bring to the table and if they can make enough money to make investors happy. Realistically, they will stirr up the market, yes. Rivalling Nvidia on the top end... near future? Maybe not. I'm kind of worried that with all their cash, they're taking the fight more to AMD than Nvidia. Cutting down on AMD's margin more than anything else. Which I don't see as a necessary win for the greater good, but we shall see. That said, I won't hold my breath in hopes for Intel bringing cheaper and better cards to every segment out there. More likely, slightly cheaper low to mid tier (which you are of course right, the majority of poeple), but on the top end... Nvidia is still doing whatever they "feel" like.

msotirov:

What? There are much more FreeSync monitors out there than GSync. FreeSync is starting to appear on TVs too, beating GSync to market by a full year.

Undying:

What it is to get? Freesync is everywhere. 200$ cheppo monitor have it while gsync is only at 400$ range and up (also needs an nvidia card only).

AMD didn't necessarily pioneer the technology but they designed an open variant of it and started branding it as their own. Nvidia took advantage of that and leveraged their market dominance to essentially hijack the brand. All those Freesync monitors that are "everywhere" are now, mostly, G-Sync compatible and a lot of these companies started leaving off the "Freesync" brand only keeping G-Sync Compatible. This is especially true for newer monitors coming out.

fantaskarsef:

I... might be in the losing end on this, but... maybe I'm the only one not really excited? I seriously doubt we will see a competitive GPU in 2020. Node? Drivers? Performance itself, even if the drivers work? Support by other programs like 3D modelling / rendering? And as a buyer in the highest segment of GPUs, I doubt Intel will have an offer for me personally. Sure, the low and mid segment will see much gain of a 3rd player, but until Nvidia has to even move their little finger, I still put my hopes into AMD battling it out with Nvidia in the enthusiast segment. Also, I don't see how the lower tier massively profits from this... AMD already has excellent offerings for 1080p and reasonable 1440p offers. 4K is still out of reasonable reach of anybody, especially taking RT into account. This is not saying they shouldn't try, but honestly, Intel has had a history of lacking innovation... why is everybody now thinking they will just miraculously throw over the GPU market? That seems a bit too optimistic for me personally.

Same here. I don't think they'll have anything meaningful to compete with Nvidia's 70 series or above for a couple of generations. I think they'll be lucky to produce a $200 GPU that competes with AMD on fps-per-dollar. Sadly, I think if you want high res and/or high frame rate capable GPUs, it's Nvidia or bust for a while longer. Maybe AMD will squeak out a competitor to the 2080 next year, but: They probably won't manage to undercut Nvidia by more than $50, which means Nvidia could easily drop price to match Nvidia certainly has the 3k series right around the corner to leap frog them again

fantaskarsef:

We shall see if they can. Depends on what they bring to the table and if they can make enough money to make investors happy. Realistically, they will stirr up the market, yes. Rivalling Nvidia on the top end... near future? Maybe not. I'm kind of worried that with all their cash, they're taking the fight more to AMD than Nvidia. Cutting down on AMD's margin more than anything else. Which I don't see as a necessary win for the greater good, but we shall see. That said, I won't hold my breath in hopes for Intel bringing cheaper and better cards to every segment out there. More likely, slightly cheaper low to mid tier (which you are of course right, the majority of poeple), but on the top end... Nvidia is still doing whatever they "feel" like.

Since it's Intel we are talking about, I strongly believe they would want to replace Nvidia (and AMD) in the very lucrative server/supercomputer/AI simulation market as well. Right now many super computers are typically built by using Intel or AMD CPUs running Nvidia GPUs (hopefully also more AMD GPUs from now on). Intel ought to like to have an option with an Intel CPU + Intel GPU. Some mainstream equivalent GPU won't do there.

Kaarme:

Since it's Intel we are talking about, I strongly believe they would want to replace Nvidia (and AMD) in the very lucrative server/supercomputer/AI simulation market as well. Right now many super computers are typically built by using Intel or AMD CPUs running Nvidia GPUs (hopefully also more AMD GPUs from now on). Intel ought to like to have an option with an Intel CPU + Intel GPU. Some mainstream equivalent GPU won't do there.

That's true, but I am not sure, do those server GPUs not do rather different stuff than what we use? So I just don't expect them to pop up with a product that's performing on their first drop. I've discussed this with others, like @Denial too, and yeah Intel has millions... I don't expect them to do it that easily. And nobody knows, by now, if they're even interested in the very small segment of highest end gaming GPUs. Low to mid tier gaming stuff, sure, that's the moneys (OEMs too), and servers ofc, but I don't expect Intel's equivalent to go much faster than what AMD's top line is. And maybe not even that in their first run.

We expect to be underwhelmed but... What if intel pulls a mic drop and completely annihilates the 3080Ti (or whatever ampere card)? Lunacy, I know, but wouldn't that be the kick in the chops nvidia needs?

0blivious:

We expect to be underwhelmed but... What if intel pulls a mic drop and completely annihilates the 3080Ti (or whatever ampere card)? Lunacy, I know, but wouldn't that be the kick in the chops nvidia needs?

Yeah... but so would it have been if AMD did this... 😉