Intel CPUs are Still Better - Says Intel

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Intel can say anything they want but gap is closing so fast that they should be concerned what happens next.
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The gap is 10-15% at best and you pay double for it. Intel should really get its head out of its a** and start actually doing something.
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Point is, what does someone do that is pressed against a corner? Lash out in defense. It's natural that they react like this but they should be concerned about what AMD releases next. If the gap is closed as much this time, what will it look like next time?
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Faster IS faster. Intel is faster in gaming, and Amd is faster in Cinebench. Buy what you want 🙂
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Intel shows 6% better in AAA gaming parcours? Fun thing is, I thought it was more than "just" 6%...
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Intel is relying to much on their flagship 9900k while the rest of the lineup is crap. Only a dumbass would buy 9700/9600k when 3600/3700x are around.
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they highlighted what we knew, difference in performances mostly in the range of 2 to 3%, with peaks up to 6%. That is completely fine on top high end cpu. Is the 250$ cpu that is extremely better on the amd side.
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Undying:

Intel is relying to much on their flagship 9900k while the rest of the lineup is crap. Only a dumbass would buy 9700/9600k when 3600/3700x are around.
Why so toxic? Peace and love ❤
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I still remember an Intel exec telling they have the perfect trust in the brand new Kaby Lake. And then half a year later they release the artificially mobo-incompatible Coffee Lake. I take everything Intel says with a full packet of iodised salt. But then again, I also won't trust blindly anything AMD says either. Both are primarily interested in the customers' money.
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nizzen:

Why so toxic? Peace and love ❤
It was harsh but true. I love you too :P
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All AMD needs to do is put out an article saying AMD cpu's are still better and Intel will be confused.
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"[...] and may not reflect all publicly available security updates. [...]" I just realised... I missed that part of the foot note. So... they're not even 6% faster.
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Not everyone games, and in multi-threaded scenarios Intel is in trouble. Secondly, who wants a system riddled with vulnerabilities that requires patches every so often?
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nizzen:

Why so toxic? Peace and love ❤
He isn't toxic. He is just right.
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Loophole35:

9700K at 5.0+Ghz IS faster than 3600/3700x in all gaming scenarios even with the security patches. I'm just not sure the 9700k is worth it over the 3600. 3700x is a different story it gets a bit muddier there as you can justify both and they are relatively even in price.
Thats the thing. You are little faster in games and slower in everything else. You have to make sure you have all the security patches. You have to overclock the chip. You have to find gaming scenarios where ipc matters becouse if game can use more than 8 threads you are left behind. Its a bold claim saying Intel is "faster".
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The Smartest people bought Intel 8700k Day 1 for gaming. 2. Smartest bought 9900k for gaming day 1. Nothing is smart for gaming only today. Wait for next gen, and buy @ day 1. Buy cpu for all kind of things today, Ryzen 3600 is the best by far, for the money 🙂
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Undying:

Thats the thing. You are little faster in games and slower in everything else. You have to make sure you have all the security patches. You have to overclock the chip. You have to find gaming scenarios where ipc matters becouse if game can use more than 8 threads you are left behind. Its a bold claim saying Intel is "faster".
Good luck finding a cpu that beats overclocked 9700k with 4400mhz tweaked memory today for gaming only. There are people that use pc for gaming only. Most people in this thread are using pc for Forums only People can buy whatever they want. I don't care. I buy everything and benchmarking the hell out of it
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i just recently bought an i9 9900k over the ryzen 9 3900x due to a few factors. Location : i live in south korea and man the price of current ryzen are expensive after converted from us dollars the mark up is anywhere from $40 to $90 dollars. Secondly the x570 motherboards chipset drivers and bios is still slightly unstable and not sure when they will be stabilized. Also the motherboards are abit more expensive than z390. There are certain games not working well with ryzen cpus and requires patching. I think anthem is the one recently got fixed. So overall the x570 and ryzen 3 series cpu is great no doubt. Looking at benchmarks and reviews, most of them say they are really good, but its just abit unstable atm. Thats why i went with the intel i9 9900k, i gave it 5-6 weeks before i finalized my purchase and i really wanted the ryzen 9 3900x but the stability issues ultimately made me went with intel.
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It's what Intel says. Other thing is what numbers and real life performance shows, and yet another thing is what you pay with your own money and put to the tasks you really need. Moreover, it's about one concludes after reading (really reading, now skimmed through) extensive reviews made by honest and unbiased hardware aficionados. Think for yourself, then respond, if you really have something to say. Really, as in lately some gurus feel the urge to get on their kiddie side and start calling names and act like toddlers who are missing their sleep and food. Ladies and gentlemen, let's get out wits together and show some respect and appreciation to Hilbert, who in his will to share knowledge, allowed all of us to participate on this free forum. I will say until it hurts: This forum is what we make of it. Let's do our very best to stay informative, respectful and unbiased. Thank you in advance, and I'll invite everyone at the guru's pub for a pint who agrees with what's being said. Cheers!