D3M1G0D:

Results are nothing to write home about - looks like yet another refresh with minimal improvements. Not sure what all the discussion is about. It's for a different market. Workstation users or prosumers want stability and longevity more than anything else - an overnight rendering job is useless if it crashes halfway through. My 1950X runs at stock since I run it 24/7 with all cores maxed out and I want absolute stability. Efficiency also matters when you make money from your PC - overclocking typically reduces the efficiency, meaning you make less money (why make less money if you don't have to?). I have both Intel and AMD systems as well - so what? Owning both does not make you "not a fanboy". .

I'm a performance fanboy. I don't care about color, rgb or brand.

A professional friend of mine who owns x299 says 'nope, not going to bother upgrading my 7980XE until 10nm comes out', which I couldn't really blame him, seeing as the performance hasn't budged at all. Intel's still stuck in a trance where they can trickle-feed mhz increases on HEDT, and are going to get blown away if they keep doing this long enough. Sure there will always be people who just either 'want the best' or fall into the 'have more money than sense' category, and want or wish to pay double for the extra 5% of performance. What happens when there is no more 5% performance bonus to paying double? I solely buy somewhere around or one step up from 'best bang for the buck' here, as I'm on a fixed income. By contrast, he needs a workstation that will also game and stream, as he makes six figures a year doing so. I ended up with a Ryzen, he ended up with a Ryzen and an intel HEDT 7980XE (when it was top dog). I bought into Ryzen because I can bump up the CPU in a year or two or at-least double my 8-core to 16-core of the same generation, even if NO more upgrades would come out (latest says we're still on for 2020 and 2021 on AM4). He couldn't be bothered as he just replaces the entire system when he does it as it must run 24/7 when he needs it to. So long story short, there's two entirely different markets and demographics, but he isn't blind to progress either. He will gladly purchase a TR platform if it's superior and they handle the latency issues inside the CPU, so that it's at-least on-par with intel. I feel that's a tall order there. I'll keep my fingers crossed here just hoping for competition and progress, the kind of progress that gives us here something to talk about and upgrade to. I'm not a fanboy of either brand, but I sure am a fanboy of building my own computer on a reasonable budget to alleviate buyer's remorse. I am sure many would agree. ...and intel, intel you can do better, you SHOULD do better, before you're cast to the wayside with FX-series rubbish!

looking at the benchmarks...(pics).....i am just wondering the difference between i7 9700K and 9900k.....o_O