Intel Core i7 4770K and Z87 chipset review
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Ghosty
Thanks for the in depth review Hilbert. Looks like the 3770K is still going very strong.
moab600
gonna keep my lovely 2700K, might get another board to oc it further to 5.0ghz. not real improvement over SB or IB.
Darren Hodgson
Thorough review as always but is it me or is the i7-4770K a spectacularly unexciting product? I'm not sure why it was even released when it performs exactly the same as the i7-3770K. If the CPU ran cooler then that might have been something to shout about but, again, it's exactly the same as the 3770K. :3eyes:
My i7-920 is getting on for 5 years old but, right now, I think I'd be better off waiting for the next-gen consoles to come out then buying a 6-core CPU around then. I see absolutely no need to upgrade to Haswell right now although USB 3.0, PCI-E 3.0 (why do the slides on page 6 all show PCI-E 2.0?) and SATAIII would, undoubtedly, be nice things to have. In fact, those things are way more appealing than the CPU upgrade itself.
At one time, CPU upgrades used to be exciting events, promising faster performance in games, but now they seem to offer very little for gamers who already have powerful graphics cards.
Hilbert Hagedoorn
Administrator
You are looking at the PCH (south-bridge chipset) which have 2.0 links. The PCIe lanes for Graphics come directly from the processor and are 3.0
TheDeeGee
At what Voltage does the memory run in the review?
Because i hear left and right 1.5v or you blow the controller on the CPU, others say it's bull**** and 1.65v is just fine.
I'm really lost now, cuz Memory is the final part i need for my Haswell upgrade.
Hilbert Hagedoorn
Administrator
I've had 1.65 on the MSI and Gigabyte motherboards with the DDR3 mem at 2400 MHz, I wouldn't worry about it too much really.
lucidus
What was the revision of the motherboard? Could you check for the USB 3 sleep bug?
Hilbert Hagedoorn
Administrator
Intel has not released a new revision and the USB 3.0 sleep bug only happens with some specific storage units that Intel did not share.
I did connect multiple devices to USB 3.o to replicate that bug, yet was unable to spot it.
Kaleid
"Here's another subtlety you should know about, when Intel released Ivy Bridge people noticed that Ivy Bridge processors overheat quite fast once you pass 1.30 Volts on the processor, which has everything to do with the TIM / Intel Heat-spreader used."
:bang: :bang: :bang:
bucknuts21
Maybe Intel is just trying to give AMD time to catch up for some strange reason. Besides the new MB's that are really nice this reminds me of AMD release of the FX 8150. If you had a 1090T/1100T it was a waste to upgrade just for the CPU. I'm sure the 4770K will sell well because of people wanting new MB's but that's the only reason. Nice review as always.
Anarion
Looks like I'm going to pass the die shrink version too. 2600K/3770K will last looooong time.
TheDeeGee
Ill be getting it anyways.
My SSD isbeing hold back by like 200 MB\s due to SATA 300. My videocard is PCI-E Gen 3 ready which could be a 2-3% gain in performance (not a whole lot i know, but every bit counts). Also my Case is USB 3.0 ready and i got a couple of USB 3.0 devices by now.
X58 is just getting a bit old by now, it's been almost 4 years since i bought it.
Performance might be a bit dissapointing atm, but there will be new BIOS Firmware, Chipset Drivers. I highly doubt i will be throwing away money.
lucidus
Thanks for that 😀 How much of an overclock can I expect at stock voltage? My 920 goes upto 3.5 GHz undervolted so something equivalent would be nice.
My view is the same. I want the Z87 Deluxe by Asus and SSD's wouldn't work to their full potential on my current build anyway. i'm not sure about hex-cores though as new consoles have such weak processors and we have hyper threading.
TheDeeGee
For Gaming Hexa Core is a waste of money. If you do Heavy Video Rendering Hexa Core is what you want.
Dazz
Pretty disappointing the graphics has been upped yet still well below trinity's, so much for the hype that Intel had going for it's graphics. Sandy bridge was the best and still a fantastic performer and overclocks better too this TIM Intel uses is a useless and should go back to soldering the IHS.
scoter man1
"When we place load on the CPU and we see the power draw rise, the system now consumes roughly 1350 Watts."
1350w? Must be some serious overclocking going on there.
alanm
The main point of Haswell is power savings and IGP performance. If they were to focus on better performance, then TDP goes out the window. So it was a set of compromises, they can afford to let go of performance in favor of the other areas. Especially as this arch goes into mobile platforms/devices, where I think its main emphasis will probably be.
schmidtbag
I think it'd make more sense to get a cheap PCI-e SATA III card and USB 3.0 card. But, if you decide to do the full upgrade and if you can put good use to your current system then of course it wouldn't be throwing money away.
Anyways, I do find this to be a surprisingly poor "upgrade". Not sure why Intel felt the need to do a socket upgrade - they could've taken AMD's route with the FX series and the 800 chipset, where you CAN use it, but you might lose some features. I'm guessing Intel has some deal with certain mobo manufacturers where they're paid to make new sockets every other year whether they're necessary or not.
xodius80
i agree with you, i rather spend money on a good ssd wich can offer me more performance, than to updrage the whole system, im allready on ddr3 too with my current system, and my 4ghz oc represents no bottleneck to any videocard atm (single gpu)
lucidus
Frankly I doubt Broadwell will be much of an upgrade either. Perhaps the same with Skylake (except for DDR4) but who is to say for that far into the future. Wintel is getting hammered due to ARM, their focus for consumer chips will now be on power consumption and efficiency than more performance.
