Guru3D Winter 2019 PC Buyer Guide
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anticupidon
My oh my, how fierce the battle is!
The High-End Gaming from 2018 was a battle between AMD Ryzen R7 2700X and Intel's i7 8700k, but this year is 3700X vs 9700K.
Below that AMD is leading, and in the HEDT well, I'll leave you to hear Intel screaming undet Threadripper's blows.
XenthorX
The Mid-Range build is excellent. You would have asked me 5years ago, i would have said AMD was done. Boy was i wrong.
wavetrex
Short version: Buy AMD.
fry178
Great job HH, guide kinda needed a refresh.
Considering the Deepcool with its anti-leak, when someone like Corsair covers all hardware that gets damaged if the aio fails, i dont know.
Sure, its the same asetek stuff (pump design etc),
But at least i get the money to replace any broken parts,
which Deepcool/others dont offer (afaik).
Hilbert Hagedoorn
Administrator
Guys, Raffaele is writing these fantastic guides, not me.
Embra
Good job Raffaele!
Good job to you HH in General!
fry178
@hh
and i thought i overlooked that, but "..By Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 12/09/2019.." 😀
so @Raffaele
good job
Goiur
Great job hiring Raffaele 😛:D:D
Nice job Raffaele !
Hilbert Hagedoorn
Administrator
You're referring to the news-item, not the article 😉
fantaskarsef
Too bad the writers of such guides don't regularly show their popular faces in the forums, or do they and I just miss it?
Good guide, I wish I had something like this when I started building my own rigs some two decades ago!
anticupidon
Someday, we want to see/know who is now behind Guru3D team.
So many new names, vast majority thinks that HH is one man orchestra (and for sure he is).
Goiur
Nah! HH is living the life in the Bahamas, remotely controlling his huge business and fortune.
anticupidon
Yeah, right!
HH being the perfectionist, will want to be right at the command center.
Passus
FYI you cannot flash RX 5700s that have only 1 x 8 pin power port
asturur
I had a crappy custom built loop.
Unless it is filled with wrong liquid that can conduct electricity, generally a leak is not fatal.
You get there is a leak because the temps goes up since the water is coming out.
The distilled water does not conduct electricy easily.
beedoo
A good read.
The only thing that irks me is the RAM. From the mainstream build upwards, 3600MHz CL16 seems to be the go.
There are numerous places I can order RAM from in Australia, and two of them (that can be driven to) sell literally dozens of kits. At one of those outlets, only one kit appears to be 3600C16 and that's a 4 x 16GB G.Skill Neo RGB kit @ AU$699. Almost all G.Skill and Dominator Platinum kits outside of this are CL18.
Out of the 27 x 3200MHz kits, two were CL15 and the rest were CL16.
I actually picked up 64GB 3200 CL16 Dominator Platinum RAM (AU$800) - which according to Thaiphoon Burner is B-die, but everything I've subsequently read says these are trash kits... So I feel pretty good about this purchase.
RAM can have a noteworthy effect on game performance - to the effect of several FPS, so it's annoying that to get low latency kits we have to order from Amazon US or NewEgg.
fantaskarsef
@Hilbert Hagedoorn in the good guide: page 2 ("Computer Jargon"), in the first table the builds are named differently than they are in the later parts of the article (or site links). Not sure if that's a bug or intended, since I always liked the "nibble, bite, megabite" naming. 😀
fry178
@beedoo
dont worry about cl.
i have 3600/18/1T, and it gets same almost perf than the 3200/14/2T i installed in a different rig (but same cpu/gpu).
not something i would worry about, as long as its 3600.
@hh
im getting old. guess i should have seen it more than once, reading guru for 20y, lol.
Dragam1337
It obviously only makes a difference when you are cpu bottlenecked -_-'
fry178
at least for ryzen not really.
went thru a couple oc oc/reviews and 3200CL16 ram will behave like 3600CL18,
except IF will clock at 1800 not just 1600.
and especially when it comes to ryzen 3xxx chips, i would give IF clocks priority
(which most here will get on med/higher rig)
