Hilbert Hagedoorn:

Scanned your avatar, and no apparently not 🙂

You know what, in all these years, I think you're the first person who did 😉 Now I wish I actually put something really clever in there.

NewTRUMP Order:

https://i.investopedia.com/inv/tutorials/site/economics/economics3.gif So where are the new series of gpu cards going to come in at price point? Will Nvidia have a short or long memory of this lack of demand? Unfortunately we are a ways off from a new series release. I believe Nvidia will release them at the same outlandish price points as before. And the retailers will have no mercy either. And with this in the news they will probably hold off even longer to release them knowing that starving the consumer from their product will bolster the demand side of this equation. So bottom line is we the desktop user/builder are still screwed even with this news.

If they try to gouge too hard it might not work out well for them. Gaming is still the majority of Nvidia's profits and more than all their other markets combined.

Prince Valiant:

If they try to gouge too hard it might not work out well for them. Gaming is still the majority of Nvidia's profits and more than all their other markets combined.

You mean like they did for months now? 😀 Yes their revenue was kept up by mining, but what you describe now actually didn't hit NV that much, since their cards weren't as popular to mine (in the beginning at least). I generally think that mining has had more of an impact on AMD's availability, not NV's, but I might be wrong.

They have the miners as an excuse for the last few months. I'd hope that even the most loyal Nvidia fans wouldn't blindly accept Nvidia jacking up MSRP.

i don't think at this point the mining will completely die out just the fever for it will ease down as the profit margins got tighter but it is still profitable to mine ...i think we are on the road to hit equilibrium not everyone and their dog will try to mine and supply and demand will normalize to the new levels ... i am just a bit afraid the new cards might offer again big profit margins and will re-ignite some fever for it ... will see

Mining for the foreseeable future will be a factor I think. Folks will just have to adjust to it. Hopefully Manufacturers will learn to adjust to it as well.

It's Ok with actual prices. I won't buy an middle GPU for 500-600 euro. Good luck boys! P.S. Sold my 1070 for 500 euro, bought it for 350 a year ago 😀

Yea, Graphic card prices are coming down, I just need ram prices to drop before I pull the trigger to upgrade my system. Mainly Ram holding me back. Its double what it should be in my estimation. Need a new board, cpu, and ddr4 ram

Monchis:

Hopefully back to normal when 750ti level cards were enough to match latest console on the market, high end falling short at 4k is lame.

High end GPUs out does all consoles, even the 4k ones, even the 980 ti does. You can play any game you want on 4K on the computer with 980 ti, 980, 1060 6GB and up, at console settings, just fine, for that consoles are playing at 4K.

icedman:

Anyone that planned on getting a card has probably already gotten it by now and a quick check here in canada shows that at least the gtx 1080 is still 200$+ above msrp who wants to pay that.

Just paid £450 (seller originally wanted £500)for my Evga 1080ftw...doesnt even look like it left the box, but even better ....i have the full 3 yr warranty.

Most retailers and graphics card manufacturers were all too happy to jump on the price gouging bandwagon. Reduced sales on both serves them right. The retailers didn't seem to realize that by price gouging they'd also lose sales on other hardware, since most folks use the purchase of cards to justify new builds. No affordable cards meant folks were content to simply hang on to what they already had.

They Keep Adding new coins to prop up the value of existing coins, WIN WIN! LOLZ!

Fox2232:

@Aura89 Greed is purely on side of miners.

Greed is not purchasing something you are capable and allowed to purchase. Greed is saying those people can't, because of selfish, greedy reasons.

Fox2232:

@Aura89 : And to your last part... Last thing I want is for bigBro to think that we are harboring some religious fundamentalists on this forums due to innocent hyperbole.

Then maybe people should stop acting like it and stop calling for innocent people to be lynched, heads cut off, killed, beaten up, put in jail for life, etc.? It's funny, that post got deleted because apparently it's perfectly okay in these forums to suggest the things above, but not okay to compare it to another group of people who do the exact same thing in the real world, and actually follow through with it. Basically, it's okay to threaten to kill people or wish people harm, but not compare them to people who do that. Alllllrighty then. But i will repost the stats of this article that are wrong. This articles keep stating how this is due to cryptocurrency has been going down since the beginning of april... But.... It's been going down since january, and going up since april... https://i.imgur.com/I1sU0oq.png https://i.imgur.com/sVfLC3X.jpg

Koniakki:

Post been removed it seems(as it should have) so I'm removing my reply too. I don't usually(or almost never to be more accurate) participate in discussions or topics like this, but as a forum member myself I find posts or content like that completely unacceptable and have no place in Guru3D community forums.

Ah, so you're one of the ones who thinks it's okay to threaten people. Cool story, brah. Such despicable and horrible people in these forums. Honestly, if this post "violates the rules of the forums" again, so be it. Ban me, at this point i don't care. The fact that whenever cryptocurrency comes up around here, there's this mob-mentality that is just PERFECTLY FINE apparently to wish and suggest harm on people just because they don't understand or care to understand what it is they are against all because of their own greed, and can do whatever they want on this forum apparently, then what's the point? What's the point of a technology forum where you can wish, suggest and openly want harm against people? That's not a technology forum, that's just a mob-mentality forum. I come here for unbiased TECHNOLOGY INFORMATION. Not to be told that i, a miner (though not GPU mining), should be lynched, put in jail, my head cut off, killed, among so many other things people have said in this here very forum, all because i do something perfectly legal, do not harm anyone, i even pay my taxes on my cryptocurrency. I am a law abiding citizen and i am doing everything by the book and paying my dues, but apparently, i should die because of that. Thank you oh so great forum people of these forums for wishing death upon me.

Fox2232:

There is no value to begin with. If I throw a box of sand into room and say that each speck has $10 value. It will not have any value till those who grab that sand make someone pay that $10 or more. (make-believe) And as such, for every $ someone makes from this sand, someone has to give his $ into worthless sand. One day, victims realize there is no value in sand. And it becomes just ordinary sand. But till then they will try over and over again to sell their sand to others. Those who got rid of sand at some price become rich at expense of tears of those who were stuck inside at time of crash. That's how those crypto currencies work.

You can't blame that all on cryptocurrencies, as not all cryptocurrencies are like that. Most of the ones that are actually worth anything, have a reason behind it, granted obviously not all. Siacoin for instance is the main cryptocurrency i am interested in. Don't know what siacoin is? Look it up and actually do some research. People think that because there are bad apples within the cryptocurrency world, that all people involved must be bad apples, because of posts like yours above, even though those same issues are brought up in the cryptocurrency world and people try and make sure people do not invest in them. People were all over the cryptocurrency world trying to make sure people did not invest in bitconnect, because people saw it for what it was, a pyramid scheme. Did that prevent people completely from investing? No. But to make it sound like everyone was for it, even though people were warning others about them constantly? That's messed up. And i get it, you said "that's how those" , which implies there are others that are not like that, but that only IMPLIES, instead what you did was fuel anyone who thinks that ALL cryptocurrency is bad and is meant to make the rich, richer by stealing the lesser mans money, and that's just being ill-informed.

dude its ok if you are a minor jeez don't get crazy yo just dont tell nobody around here 😀

Saabjock:

Most retailers and graphics card manufacturers were all too happy to jump on the price gouging bandwagon. Reduced sales on both serves them right. The retailers didn't seem to realize that by price gouging they'd also lose sales on other hardware, since most folks use the purchase of cards to justify new builds. No affordable cards meant folks were content to simply hang on to what they already had.

the damn retailers f'ed us so bad with mark ups on vga's they made more cash then the minors did that was not ok in my book. let them sell out at close to msrp as always then you have no blood money on your hands. I hope both vga brands/aibs open up sales at msrp because I refuse to buy them from newegg amazons ect.ect. so I just stepped into ref. card only and I am pretty pissed my fantasies are totally screwed on used cards now too I would not touch one with a 10 foot pole. all sorts of blood money and not only that if we get any freaking rebrands they better be 12% lower in price then the card it replaces

cowie:

dude its ok if you are a minor jeez don't get crazy yo just dont tell nobody around here 😀

I'm sorry but it doesn't matter if i tell anyone if i am or am not a miner. If they are going to openly suggest harm and death to any and all people who are involved in cryptocurrency, and that's somehow completely OKAY in these forums, that's screwed up. That is so far beyond screwed up. And what does it matter at that point if people know i am or am not a miner if they are wishing death upon me? That'd be like if people were wishing death against black people, to "just not tell anyone you're black" and somehow that magically makes the death threats go away.

D3M1G0D:

I don't think anyone is seriously calling for miners to be killed.

Ah, i get it, so apparently because people aren't serious about their horrible statements, that makes it "all the better", because that's how reality works, right? We can just joke and joke about beheading people and murdering people all we want, as long as it's "just a joke" right? And maybe you missed the part where fantaskarsef literally stated "Any gamer living close to them should pay them a visit if the GPU prices surpass their price they're willing to pay / able to afford." What's that mean? Huh? "Pay them a visit" and then right afterwards "Lynching people should be more common these days." Huh, yeah, i should totally calm down that people are just willynilly death threatening people, because "oh, they can't possibly be serious" Bunch of BS that is.

D3M1G0D:

Also, the hatred that gamers have for miners is well-documented, even if miners aren't the ones who are ultimately responsible (as I pointed out previously, it is speculators bidding up prices who triggered the mining boom).

Having "hatred" for someone, or something, is one thing. I hate Apple with a passion, i do not wish for everyone at apple be lynched, beheaded or be murdered because i hate apple. Are you saying it'd be okay if i did? Because that's mentally screwed up.

Aura89:

I'm sorry but it doesn't matter if i tell anyone if i am or am not a miner. If they are going to openly suggest harm and death to any and all people who are involved in cryptocurrency, and that's somehow completely OKAY in these forums, that's screwed up. That is so far beyond screwed up. And what does it matter at that point if people know i am or am not a miner if they are wishing death upon me? That'd be like if people were wishing death against black people, to "just not tell anyone you're black" and somehow that magically makes the death threats go away.

that was not right you got slammed but no one said it was alright. don't be so thin skinned thuo.they can be like the crow he don't kill you he just wounds you then pecks at the same spot and eats you in little pieces so don't get eaten by crow trolls you can try to throw down a vga as a diversion and walk away those guys are jokers and messing around you see them in the weed thread? its gotta be 420 somewhere I think you are a way better guy then me cus I dream of the Microsoft guys all eating bad sushi and at the very least getting the sh!ts

cowie:

that was not right you got slammed but no one said it was alright. don't be so thin skinned thuo.they can be like the crow he don't kill you he just wounds you then pecks at the same spot and eats you in little pieces so don't get eaten by crow trolls you can try to throw down a vga as a diversion and walk away those guys are jokers and messing around you see them in the weed? thread its gotta be 420 somewhere I think

The fact of the matter is that this has been happening on the forum for months now with no repercussion. Why am i pissed? Because none of this is right, it's quite horrible, but it continues to happen. So what happens when i compare them to exactly who they sound like in the real world? My post gets deleted and i get a warning, for "inappropriate language", of which there was no inappropriate language, i don't swear. The "inappropriate language" must have been the name of the group i compared them to, so apparently saying that name on these forums is "inappropriate", but death threats are not. So i may be more pissed them i usually am whenever people start throwing death threats to cryptocurrency people, but it's completely warranted when your post gets deleted for saying a name of a group, but not when you put death threats out. Honestly, i'm more irritated and pissed that this forum is ALLOWING these people to state death threats, then i am about the horrible people actually saying the death threats. But again, my post was deleted because of "inappropriate language" for saying a very publicized terrorist groups name, and how they both publicly state and do what people on these forums are suggesting and stating should happen to cryptocurrency people.

Aura89:

The fact of the matter is that this has been happening on the forum for months now with no repercussion. Why am i pissed? Because none of this is right, it's quite horrible, but it continues to happen. So what happens when i compare them to exactly who they sound like in the real world? My post gets deleted and i get a warning, for "inappropriate language", of which there was no inappropriate language, i don't swear. The "inappropriate language" must have been the name of the group i compared them to, so apparently saying that name on these forums is "inappropriate", but death threats are not. So i may be more pissed them i usually am whenever people start throwing death threats to cryptocurrency people, but it's completely warranted when your post gets deleted for saying a name of a group, but not when you put death threats out. Honestly, i'm more irritated and pissed that this forum is ALLOWING these people to state death threats, then i am about the horrible people actually saying the death threats. But again, my post was deleted because of "inappropriate language" for saying a very publicized terrorist groups name, and how they both publicly state and do what people on these forums are suggesting and stating should happen to cryptocurrency people.

all kidding aside I know what you mean 100% but don't get all worked up its not worth it. you been here for years just tell a mod it works you know that I got hit with the ban hammer a few times but it don't make me a bad guy,just one that went too far but when your right your right just like when I told that guy I was going to skull f him a few years back I was righ.. er worng for telling him that,we got over it .... a little

well fight nice I will concentrate on jinxing newegg so that everything they sold this week comes back as doa. its not all about you wtf am I going to do with crappy ref. cards and maybe rebrands cut so damn bad you get 50 in the damn clocks....and you have problems:(