BlackZero:

Now that looks better than most I've seen, but no idea on the noise it generates.

It's garbage don't touch it! It's identical to the ASUS 2080Ti Turbo......... it's anything but as it is thermal throttles noise wise people say it's loud but not to the point of other blower cards int he past. However you will need to run at 100%. If i recall it's capt at 60%

I like these blower style cards, but we have to know that because of their loudness their are not for everyone.. but i like to have the heat out off my computer

Brings back such memories... "affectionately" called the Leaf Blower in 2003. If you are interested in a brief summary, read on...It was cancelled six months after it shipped. Permanently. The video gets a number of things wrong--which is understandable as it was done by someone who was not gaming in 2003 and thus relies on hearsay--which I noted was incorrect in many statements--so take the commentary with a large grain of salt. The real story in 2002/3 was FSAA, which the Radeon did extremely well but which nVidia GPUs couldn't really do at all. nVidia was fond of saying in those days--"We don't care about FSAA, we only care about resolution" *cough*--very funny considering that 1600x1200 sat then where 3840x2160 sat a year or two ago in terms of being able to actually play accelerated 3d games using that resolution. But I figured it might provide a few laughs here...! nVidia was quick to jump on the FSAA bandwagon as soon as it was able to develop a product that could support it to some degree, however. nV30, reportedly, was the last gasp of 3dfx engineers drafted into nVidia after nVidia bought what was left of 3dfx after the company's bankruptcy. Kind of ironic, too, considering that it was 3dfx, not ATi, who first brought FSAA into the mainstream of 3d gaming--in the Voodoo 5.5k--one of which I owned at the time. But with the R300, ATi (actually ArtX) took the work 3dfx had done with FSAA and dramatically improved it. Those were interesting times--everyone was flying by the seat of his pants and no one really knew where the industry was headed, and things were shaking out with a vengeance. Right after 3dfx made the best 3d GPU product it had ever made, the Voodoo 3, a 2d/3d GPU (had one of those, too), the company crashed and burned because it had unknowingly purchased ~$500M (IIRC) in debts after it purchased its first factory in Mexico from STB, and the 3d GPU market ! STB was able to successfully unload the factory on 3dfx executives who not only bought it, but also agreed to assume any outstanding liabilities on the factory, too...! STB (another failed GPU company from that era) successfully hid the debt until after the sale, but as 3dfx had agreed (foolishly) to assume any other outstanding liabilities not covered in the purchase contract, nothing could be done about it, apparently. Object lesson on why engineers should not themselves purchase manufacturing plants, I guess.

waltc3:

Brings back such memories... "affectionately" called the Leaf Blower in 2003. If you are interested in a brief summary, read on...It was cancelled six months after it shipped. Permanently. The video gets a number of things wrong--which is understandable as it was done by someone who was not gaming in 2003 and thus relies on hearsay--which I noted was incorrect in many statements--so take the commentary with a large grain of salt. The real story in 2002/3 was FSAA, which the Radeon did extremely well but which nVidia GPUs couldn't really do at all. nVidia was fond of saying in those days--"We don't care about FSAA, we only care about resolution" *cough*--very funny considering that 1600x1200 sat then where 3840x2160 sat a year or two ago in terms of being able to actually play accelerated 3d games using that resolution. But I figured it might provide a few laughs here...! nVidia was quick to jump on the FSAA bandwagon as soon as it was able to develop a product that could support it to some degree, however. nV30, reportedly, was the last gasp of 3dfx engineers drafted into nVidia after nVidia bought what was left of 3dfx after the company's bankruptcy. Kind of ironic, too, considering that it was 3dfx, not ATi, who first brought FSAA into the mainstream of 3d gaming--in the Voodoo 5.5k--one of which I owned at the time. But with the R300, ATi (actually ArtX) took the work 3dfx had done with FSAA and dramatically improved it. Those were interesting times--everyone was flying by the seat of his pants and no one really knew where the industry was headed, and things were shaking out with a vengeance. Right after 3dfx made the best 3d GPU product it had ever made, the Voodoo 3, a 2d/3d GPU (had one of those, too), the company crashed and burned because it had unknowingly purchased ~$500M (IIRC) in debts after it purchased its first factory in Mexico from STB, and the 3d GPU market ! STB was able to successfully unload the factory on 3dfx executives who not only bought it, but also agreed to assume any outstanding liabilities on the factory, too...! STB (another failed GPU company from that era) successfully hid the debt until after the sale, but as 3dfx had agreed (foolishly) to assume any other outstanding liabilities not covered in the purchase contract, nothing could be done about it, apparently. Object lesson on why engineers should not themselves purchase manufacturing plants, I guess.

I really tried but I think you just failed massively in building a ginormous wall of text not explaining anything. I'm sorry 😉

Never had a problem with blower style cards. Quite liked them actually as they actually got the hot air where it was supposed to be - OUTSIDE the damned case. Blowers really came into their own when manufacturers actually took the time to apply the thermal paste etc properly. Non-blower style cards require a good airflow setup - not always possible, especially if you're going for a very compact build. With blower cards, as long as your sucking in enough cool air, your're golden.

reix2x:

I like these blower style cards, but we have to know that because of their loudness their are not for everyone.. but i like to have the heat out off my computer

Me too. But is there any technical reason why blower cards need such a relatively small single fan ? Does cooling become worse if you add another ?

LesserHellspawn:

Me too. But is there any technical reason why blower cards need such a relatively small single fan ? Does cooling become worse if you add another ?

Less efficient for sure. Blower coolers act like a tunnel... easy to blow the air through. If you introduce another hole in it, even with a second fan, you will get leakage of the hot air you're trying to get out, unless you build a seperate enclosed "channel" for each fan's exhaust air. Or so I think.

LesserHellspawn:

Me too. But is there any technical reason why blower cards need such a relatively small single fan ? Does cooling become worse if you add another ?

i suppose that the only improve that you can do is to put a bigger blower: https://eteknix-eteknixltd.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/IMG_3553.jpg

lol. completely ignoring that there are blower fans and there are blower fans. i never had any problems when i swapped any cooler with an arctic blower fan. they were silent and cooled better, and usually kinda cool on looks as well (most of the clear housing).

I buy a blower style card and fit an Arctic Accelero Xtreme III cooler to it. Not far off water cooling performance and almost no noise with the fans on max, very cheap to boot. And you can often do this at the cards launch, no need to wait for more expensive aftermarket cards with better coolers. I've done this to an AMD 290x, NVidia 980ti and 1080ti. And years before with an 8800GT.