GeForce RTX 3090 prices are starting to list at etailers

#5833716

Embra

2020-09-22 20:14

They should have called it 3090 Titan. I think people might view it a little differently. Or maybe a Gaming Titan.

#5833719

Neo Cyrus

2020-09-22 20:16

Silva:

300USD more for a card labelled with "OC" but same components as the "MSRP" one. As if the normal version wasn't 2x overpriced already.

2x overpriced by already hyper-bloated prices that we've been sadly accustomed to. Just to remind you guys of prices in ye olde days... a 6800 GT which performed not too different than a 6800 GTX/Ultra (the full blown chip IIRC) was $249.90 CAD. In terms of how many times it's cut down, that puts it at either Titan or 1 step above a Titan. It's sad to see people praise Jensen for these shit prices and performance increases over a generation that practically had no performance increase and prices that were a joke to the point that they resulted in lower total profit vs what they wanted. Then again, for someone like Jensen it was probably worth losing whatever amount of profit that was in exchange for getting people even more used to insane full-retard pricing. Gee, who would have thought that a monopoly over the high-end of any market would result in horrific price-gouging. Just because you can afford it and don't care, doesn't mean you're not an asshole.

#5833726

AuerX

2020-09-22 20:40

Neo Cyrus:

2x overpriced by already hyper-bloated prices that we've been sadly accustomed to. Just to remind you guys of prices in ye olde days... a 6800 GT which performed not too different than a 6800 GTX/Ultra (the full blown chip IIRC) was $249.90 CAD. In terms of how many times it's cut down, that puts it at either Titan or 1 step above a Titan. It's sad to see people praise Jensen for these crap prices and performance increases over a generation that practically had no performance increase and prices that were a joke to the point that they resulted in lower total profit vs what they wanted. Then again, for someone like Jensen it was probably worth losing whatever amount of profit that was in exchange for getting people even more used to insane full-retard pricing. Gee, who would have thought that a monopoly over the high-end of any market would result in horrific price-gouging. Just because you can afford it and don't care, doesn't mean you're not an asshole.

Why so emotional over other peoples spending habits? Lots of people out there that can afford nice things that are not assholes. Maybe you want other people to abstain just so that you can get a price you want? That's not how the world works, sorry to say.

#5833729

Denial

2020-09-22 21:06

Neo Cyrus:

2x overpriced by already hyper-bloated prices that we've been sadly accustomed to. Just to remind you guys of prices in ye olde days... a 6800 GT which performed not too different than a 6800 GTX/Ultra (the full blown chip IIRC) was $249.90 CAD. In terms of how many times it's cut down, that puts it at either Titan or 1 step above a Titan. It's sad to see people praise Jensen for these crap prices and performance increases over a generation that practically had no performance increase and prices that were a joke to the point that they resulted in lower total profit vs what they wanted. Then again, for someone like Jensen it was probably worth losing whatever amount of profit that was in exchange for getting people even more used to insane full-retard pricing. Gee, who would have thought that a monopoly over the high-end of any market would result in horrific price-gouging. Just because you can afford it and don't care, doesn't mean you're not an asshole.

While I think things are overinflated pricewise (to increase margins) you're also giving a relatively simple take on it. You can't compare a 3090 to a 6800GT. No one is going to take you seriously if you compare it to a 6800GT. A modern GPU is at least 120x more complex than a 6800GT. It's build on a process that costs an order of magnitude more to develop. It's verified by a machine that costs more than the entire development cost of the 6800GT and they are simulated by design systems that cost more than the entire 6800GT. Nvidia itself had 1800 employees in 2004 - it has 13,000 now to support the massive hardware/software stack it needs to build out for each GPU. Even if Nvidia maintained the same margins the price of cards still would have significantly increased.

#5833731

AntiSnipe

2020-09-22 21:09

Only about $1000 overpriced (relative to already extremely high prices from a few years ago). This price gouging crud is insane! This is comparable to if a loaf of bread went to $49.99 to me. That's how over the top it is. I absolutely cannot believe anyone would pay anything close to these prices, but I guess they do? That sh** is more than I ever paid for a used car. I bought a brand new 1987 (Long time ago, I know, but they don't cost $60,000 now) 750cc Kawasaki Vulkan motorcycle for the price of 3 of these cards. Would you trade this for 3 Video cards? INSANE!!!

#5833733

Denial

2020-09-22 21:16

AntiSnipe:

Only about $1000 overpriced. This price gouging crud is insane! This is comparable to if a loaf of bread went to $49.99 to me. That's how over the top it is. I absolutely cannot believe anyone would pay anything close to these prices, but I guess they do? That sh** is more than I ever paid for a car. I bought a brand new 750cc Kawasaki Vulkan motorcycle for the price of 3 of these cards. Would you trade this for 3 Video cards? INSANE!!!

You've never paid more than $2000 for a car? Bike is nice though, recently got a Street Triple RS but I think in hindsight I would have went for a cruiser like the Bolt/Vulkan or Bobber

#5833735

AntiSnipe

2020-09-22 21:18

Denial:

You've never paid more than $2000 for a car? Bike is nice though, recently got a Street Triple RS but I think in hindsight I would have went for a cruiser like the Bolt/Vulkan or Bobber

Nope. Never could afford a new one and most I paid was $1200 for used (priorities 😉). I road the $h** out of that bike though!

#5833737

The Goose

2020-09-22 21:26

AuerX:

It will sell well, as it will be the best gaming card available. $1500 aint bad, if you have a job.

I have a job....but i also have rent to pay aswell as other bills oh and not to mention...eat, also that $1500 will turn in to 2500 by the time the scalpers get price bumped up.

#5833738

AuerX

2020-09-22 21:29

The Goose:

I have a job....but i also have rent to pay aswell as other bills oh and not to mention...eat, also that $1500 will turn in to 2500 by the time the scalpers get price up bumped up.

Scalping is a completely different matter, that can largely be avoided with patience. Obviously, no one should buy anything they can't afford.

#5833750

Neo Cyrus

2020-09-22 21:54

AuerX:

Why so emotional over other peoples spending habits? Lots of people out there that can afford nice things that are not assholes. Maybe you want other people to abstain just so that you can get a price you want? That's not how the world works, sorry to say.

People who don't care what their actions result in are assholes. That's like THE core requirement of being an asshole by any reasonable definition. It's amplified by things such those actions being completely unnecessary and/or directly negative to others while knowing they are. It has nothing to do with what I think, or how I feel about anyone, or any thing, it's just like me saying the sky is blue. What saying it does change, however, is it being on more minds, which makes assholes salty when they realize everyone knows what they are and think of them as such. PS: The sky is blue, sorry you don't like that.

Denial:

Even if Nvidia maintained the same margins the price of cards still would have significantly increased.

Yeah, of course I'm giving an oversimplified example. As for the design costs, who give out those numbers though? Oh yeah, nVidia. "We spent infinity trillion dollars developing gSync Modules and they're worth more than their own weight in gold" - Jensen Huang

#5833760

kakiharaFRS

2020-09-22 22:28

I've got 2k ready the 1300 i didnt spend in the 2080ti and the 700 of the 3080..but it's better be really good or I'll wait for a 3080 super/ti/20gb cards auto-oc themselves to their max binned potential since the 1000 series so I couldn't care less about an OC behind the name but I care about a card having 63°C rather than 71°C like the 3080 TUF (who also has a more silent mode which is still as good or better than it's competition)

#5833762

AuerX

2020-09-22 22:42

Neo Cyrus:

People who don't care what their actions result in are assholes. That's like THE core requirement of being an asshole by any reasonable definition. It's amplified by things such those actions being completely unnecessary and/or directly negative to others while knowing they are. It has nothing to do with what I think, or how I feel about anyone, or any thing, it's just like me saying the sky is blue. What saying it does change, however, is it being on more minds, which makes assholes salty when they realize everyone knows what they are and think of them as such. PS: The sky is blue, sorry you don't like that. Yeah, of course I'm giving an oversimplified example. As for the design costs, who give out those numbers though? Oh yeah, nVidia. "We spent infinity trillion dollars developing gSync Modules and they're worth more than their own weight in gold" - Jensen Huang

Well, now we know that its all about what you think that qualifies for asshole. And disagreeing with you does not make anyone an asshole 🙂

#5833763

Neo Cyrus

2020-09-22 22:45

AuerX:

Well, now we know that its all about what you think that qualifies for asshole. And disagreeing with you does not make anyone an asshole 🙂

You're pushing really REALLY hard to try to make it sound like it's something I made up in order to make yourself feel better. Sorry buddeh, we don't decide the definitions of words. Assholes don't get to decide what others think of them or what words are used to describe them. They are what they are regardless of what words are used, so what does it matter? Would you prefer if I just refer to them as "selfish cretins who don't care about the negative impacts of their actions, even directly upon others"? Because I think a single word is much more efficient.

#5833767

AuerX

2020-09-22 22:58

Neo Cyrus:

You're pushing really REALLY hard to try to make it sound like it's something I made up in order to make yourself feel better. Sorry buddeh, we don't decide the definitions of words. Assholes don't get to decide what others think of them or what words are used to describe them. They are what they are regardless of what words are used, so what does it matter? Would you prefer if I just refer to them as "selfish cretins who don't care about the negative impacts of their actions, even directly upon others"? Because I think a single word is much more efficient.

Are we still talking videocards here or Insulin prices?

#5833775

Neo Cyrus

2020-09-22 23:11

AuerX:

Are we still talking videocards here or Insulin prices?

Doesn't matter. Those asshole idiosyncrasies extend to everything with people who have that mentality. You get mad even at dictionary definitions that could possibly paint you in a negative light. "NOoooo just because I eat babies doesn't make ME a baby eater! Fuck the dictionary!" - Every asshole who wants to be one without being called one. But nice try with that strawman to try to downplay it though. You tried real hard to make it personal. How's this for something personal: I can more than afford a 3090; but I won't buy one or anything of the sort, ever, no matter how much money I have... because I'm not an asshole and I have some amount of self-respect.

#5833779

AuerX

2020-09-22 23:20

Neo Cyrus:

Doesn't matter. Those asshole idiosyncrasies extend to everything with people who have that mentality. You get mad even at dictionary definitions that could possibly paint you in a negative light. "NOoooo just because I eat babies doesn't make ME a baby eater! frack the dictionary!" - Every asshole who wants to be one without being called one. But nice try with that strawman to try to downplay it though. You tried real hard to make it personal. How's this for something personal: I can more than afford a 3090; but I won't buy one or anything of the sort, ever, no matter how much money I have... because I'm not an asshole and I have some amount of self-respect.

def·i·nite·ly getting a 3090 now 🙂

#5833789

Neo Cyrus

2020-09-22 23:49

AuerX:

def·i·nite·ly getting a 3090 now 🙂

LOL you do realize the irony, right? You're still raging at me because you realized what the word asshole means. You still can't seem to separate me from the fact that you're mad over realizing it. You realizing what words mean, shouldn't equate to you lashing out, boy. Also, here's a free tip: Only assholes are ragey enough in their personalities to be able to be triggered by a happy face. Ending a troll post in one doesn't make it more effective, it actually does nothing. You're welcome, if you're really buying a 3090 you're going to need all the free things you can get. Enjoy your rage and +5% performance for $1500+ USD I guess? 🙂 < Does nothing because you're not an asshole, right? 🙂:):)

#5833792

DannyD

2020-09-22 23:54

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#5833836

Saabjock

2020-09-23 03:17

Some people never learn life's lessons. Some barely able to afford the purchase will buy...then complain that Nvidia 'cheated' them when the next version is released. For the additional cost above and beyond the RTX3080, I'd need to see at least a 90% increase in performance. That said...I never buy in that range anyway.

#5833839

NCC1701D

2020-09-23 03:27

Neo Cyrus:

You're pushing really REALLY hard to try to make it sound like it's something I made up in order to make yourself feel better. Sorry buddeh, we don't decide the definitions of words. Assholes don't get to decide what others think of them or what words are used to describe them. They are what they are regardless of what words are used, so what does it matter? Would you prefer if I just refer to them as "selfish cretins who don't care about the negative impacts of their actions, even directly upon others"? Because I think a single word is much more efficient.

It's a video card. A completely unnecessary luxury at any price point except for those that use it for work purposes. If you're such a nice guy, why don't you donate your GPU money to a family that can't put food on the table because they lost their job during COVID? Also, where do you draw the line? All future 3080 owners are saints, but 3090 buyers are the devil aholes! Luxury halo products exist in pretty much every market and people that want them will buy them if they perceive value in it. Might not be a great price to performance purchase, but that's not your decision to make Mr. nice guy.