Denial:

Based on Gamers Nexus review, it's pointless. You go up to 8K and basically every game is unplayable unless you don't actually play them at 8K and use whatever upscaler. Sometimes people should just call a spade a spade. 3090 is a spade. It's not really good at anything, it's overpriced for the vast majority of customers and definitely overpriced for what Nvidia is marketing for. It seems like it solely exists to drive Nvidia's margins up. I don't fault people for buying it - they know what they are getting for the price, all the power to them. But no one is going to sit here 4-5 years from now and look fondly on the card.

There are a lot of buyers here lining up for it because.... vram. Not that I would think it would justify the purpose, just saying 😀.

Good review HH. Since the 3090 is the successor to the Titan RTX, as a Titan RTX user I am disappointed it was not included in this review so we can see the comparative performance.

That power consumption, though...

Undying:

I really expected more from 3090 than 10% increase. Massive price tag for card that should have been called Titan Ampere but nvidia marketing strikes again.

Given the public specs, how did people expect more?

Quetzall:

You guys should have increased resolution beyond 4k to see if performance scaling would increase comparing to other cards.

How do you compare cards that do not have 8k capable output with one that has? Just to make a 3080 vs 3090? with 18% more shaders and bandwidth, you can get at max 18% extra performance, and that's it.

BLEH!:

That power consumption, though...

You think that would be a consideration to anyone forking over $1500 for the card? 😀.

Very very underwhelming >_> Ok, cooler is good, that's about it.

Solid card but if you only game, get the 3080 or wait for the 3080 20gb, unless you have to have the absolute best and money means next to nothing to you. This card destroys the Titan RTX and costs a £1000 less, also destroys the 2080ti and only costs some £300 more. It will definitely find it's use as a "in between" card, sitting nicely between the gaming cards and professional cards. Those who are upset about it's cost, don't buy it then, it's that simple. It is in fact a great value for money card for many people.

Denial:

Based on Gamers Nexus review, it's pointless. You go up to 8K and basically every game is unplayable unless you don't actually play them at 8K and use whatever upscaler.

As I thought just by looking at them 4K benchmarks, Nvidia should be called out on this, the 3090 was advertised as being the 8K card. With it not being a pro card I will even go as far as claiming that the 24GB on this card is waste of memory, even for content creators.

Mineria:

With it not being a pro card I will even go as far as claiming that the 24GB on this card is waste of memory, even for content creators.

This part is arguable. I know Linus's video has some commentary from Nvidia about it not being a Titan and not for those kind of workloads, they are saying it's good for "content creators". From my limited experience dabbling with various Adobe products (Premiere/After Effects) & tools like 3DS Max/Maya - the extra VRAM will come in handy for those for sure. Someone looking for a card to do video editing on is going to really enjoy this thing.

As a 2080ti user am unimpressed to be fair, I hope AMD has better am itching to change stuff round in my case but need a good reason like a new graphics card

alanm:

There are a lot of buyers here lining up for it because.... vram. Not that I would think it would justify the purpose, just saying 😀.

if they had just marketed it as a workstation card there wouldnt even be a discussion, we would just be kicking around productivity benchmark numbers and congratulating nvidia. the 3080 is a good improvement from the 20xx series, and im anticipating the 3070 to be a solid card, but in my opinion steve at GN is right on the money - the 3090/8K resolution marketing stunt is nothing short of a massive embarrassment.

The only game on those graphs I own is Battlefield V. Should spend the extra €1,000 to get an extra 3FPS at my monitors resolution of 2560x1440 Actually, now i think of it, my monitor only goes to 60Hz, so I can't use or see the extra 110FPS anyway... But wait... i can now turn on RAYTRACING and get over 60FPS with it... So is shiny reflective puddles on the ground worth €1600 to me? Hard decision... Actually, now I think of it... I never play BF5 any more anyway...its shite. Battlefield 4 is still more fun than entire BF5! /s Will wait for some proper VR benchmarks to make up my mind. Also LOL at Flight Sim 2020 benchmarks - I'll buy it when there is DX12 and VR version available.

So... this card is much better to use in work environment than gaming. If you need the memory and your work depends on it -> Speed the cash for a 3090. If you only game -> Stop at 3080 or, depending on scenario, the 3070. If you do both? ......or you are rich? Sure.

TheDeeGee:

and add 300 bucks for the extra cores etc etc. The price is perfectly on point.

Where you get 300 for extra cores? I hope you don't mean it costs NVidia 300 more for extra cores - because it does not. Exactly the same die as 3080, just no broken & disabled blocks in this one.

__hollywood|meo:

if they had just marketed it as a workstation card there wouldnt even be a discussion, we would just be kicking around productivity benchmark numbers and congratulating nvidia. the 3080 is a good improvement from the 20xx series, and im anticipating the 3070 to be a solid card, but in my opinion steve at GN is right on the money - the 3090/8K resolution marketing stunt is nothing short of a massive embarrassment.

is why steve is working at GN and not in NV marketing 🙂 his entire point of "should have been marketed as workstation" is incredibly moot imho. 1) first of all, nothing that a company says about their product can diminish, or raise for that matter, the value of the of their product. 3090 is what it is. So its a bogus point, UNLESS... unless steve is concerned with NV earnings from 3090 due to bad marketing. 2) in which case it could be argued that 3090 is kinda smart marketing, because it avoids Titan/Pro classification, and tries to target regular gamers, who otherwise might skip strictly prosumer card. 3) which leaves the case of steve being concerned about false/misleading marketing targeting gamers with a non-gamer prosumer card, which again is WTF. Is he suggesting that these potential buyers are unable to read reviews and count FPS? if ppl can dish $1500 without reading reviews, then 3090 is what they need. This card is MADE FOR THEM not willing to die on this hill, just my $0.02

Denial:

Kinda wish you called out Nvidia's bullshit marketing slides for 8K gaming. Their marketing needs to be reigned in and called out. It's borderline just making up numbers at this point. The card should have been labelled a Titan and gaming should have been taken off the table.

Nvidia's 8k is just marketing. Companies throw wild slogans all the time. Anyone taking marketing talk for a gospel is fully deserving of everything he gets. That being said DLSS is a move in a right direction when it comes to 8k/Ultra High res gaming. Brute forcing 4x 4k and expecting playable frames, knowing that 4k@60fps has been reached only recently, is bonkers. OTOH it seems that 8k@30fps does not even need DLSS, so it's doable TODAY (though there were same frame pacing issues), which is kinda amazing

metagamer:

It is in fact a great value for money card for many people.

That has to be quote of the day I think o_O I don't know what exclusive, executive circles you run around in 😀

Witcher29:

Can i touch it for a few days hilbert ? then i send it back xD

Right 😀... I hope AIB take notes and may move toward cooling solutions similar to the 3090 founder, that's really impressive. The latest Asus looks impressive too for temperature management.

Also regarding marketing, strategy, pricing of this 3090.... this is classic triple marketing strategy being used for years in every tech segment. If you want to sell the lot of an expensive product, the way to do it is split it up into three... always three... one cheaper version which is cut down slightly to make it less attractive, and one way more expensive version which is only a slight bit better. This way you get the Goldilocks effect - not too cold, not too hot, but just right. 90% of consumers then go for the middle option, because psychologically the cheap one is "below them, they are better than that rubbish", but the expensive option is way too much, could never afford it, doesn't add much more features, but what it does do and is designed to do is make the original middle option seem affordable. So company sells exactly the original middle product which is the actual product they wanted to sell in the first place. This is marketing 101 - oldest trick in book. Watch out for it. Used all over tech. Apple doing it for years (the 16GB, 64GB, 256GB triple). People fall hook line and sinker for it too.

Noisiv:

Is he suggesting that these potential buyers are unable to read reviews and count FPS? if ppl can dish $1500 without reading reviews, then 3090 is what they need. This card is MADE FOR THEM not willing to die on this hill, just my $0.02

hes suggesting that intentionally disingenuous marketing is an objectionable action on principle, and hes correct...but addressing your point specifically anyway, there unfortunately are uninformed people out there who make large purchasing decisions based upon marketing - in fact, theyre everywhere. its how apple came to economic prominence shortly after smartphones were invented, for example. im friends with a few casual gamers with disposable income, and they literally just read marketing material, see the fast shiny new thing, and spend their money. they ask me for advice and then their eyes glaze over when i explain anything beyond a cursory level. i dont mean any of this confrontationally, far from it, noisiv. however i do feel that the full court press of "8K gaming" with a 3090 after one slide jensen threw up saying 8K was possible with DLSS is basically a microcosm of nvidias attitude towards customers: exploitative.